NO SOFTWARE is FREE daw o!

Hello Philippine Team...

Share ko lang itong link na nakita ko...

http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/12/linux-stop-holding-our-kids-back.html

eto ilan sa mga arguements sa letter...

No software is free and spreading that misconception is harmful. These children look up to adults for guidance and discipline.

This is a world where Windows runs on virtually every computer and putting on a carnival show for an operating system is not helping these children at all. I am sure if you contacted Microsoft, they would be more than happy to supply you with copies of an older verison of Windows and that way, your computers would actually be of service to those receiving them...

Ang nakakainis diyan, dati, masyadong false information yung mga nag sasabi na Freeware daw tapos yun pala 15 day trial lang o evaluation.

Mabuti nalang may FOSS na.

The letter presented in the blog entry came from a teacher?

The letter just shows how ignorant, and therefore unreasonable, some people are. As an educator, she could have at least educated herself with what her student was demonstrating. But clearly, as the language of her letter demonstrates, she is the one who endangers the minds of children by giving them a model of close-mindedness.

"At this point, I am not sure what you are doing is legal."

Hay... mga tao nga naman talaga... Kung ako ang nagkaroon ng maestrang ganito, siya ang idedemanda ko. Ni-confiscate pa daw niya yung mga CD na ipinamimigay nung estudyante niya? Legal ba yun?

--edit:--

"Now. You give that boy his disks back. Aaron is a brilliant kid and he's learned more using Linux than he ever did using Windows. Those disks and their distribution are perfectly legal and even if he was "disruptive", you cannot keep his property. I have placed a call to the AISD Superintendent and cc'd him a complete copy of your email. It looks like we will get to meet in his office when School starts again after the holiday. I am anxious to meet a person who is this uninformed and still holds a position of authority and learnedness over our children."

Great response from Starks! If the same thing happened to my child (although I have no children yet), I'd say and do the same thing. The teacher had no right to keep the kid's property— to keep it temporarily (as in 'til the end of the school day), yes; but to keep it indefinitely, not a chance.

Let's just hope that the AISD Superintendent is a more reasonable person than this teacher.

Umikot na rin yan sa Slashdot- may nagsabi that MS sponsors a lot of teacher's union's events, therefore it is reasonable to expect teachers to only be aware of MS or to be pro-MS, although medyo harsh naman na mag-confiscate.

Sadly, the most ignorant are generally the most determined to stay that way. And this person is charged with teaching the next generation- scary!

Technically, nothing is free....

But someone did made the sacrifice for it so that other people could get it for free...

woot, wicked teachers...

Just want to update, nagka-usap usap ang involved parties and they reached an agreement. The guy will be teaching the teacher about Linux.

It seems what happened was she walked into the class to find a crowd of giggling boys holding CD's- aminin natin, that looks very suspicious! And the incident escalated from there.

At least it was resolved, and she's shown willingness to learn (now that things have calmed down)

"It seems what happened was she walked into the class to find a crowd of giggling boys holding CD's- aminin natin, that looks very suspicious! And the incident escalated from there."

I don't buy the part that the situation needed to escalate because of suspicion (i.e., the kids could have been watching porn). The letter that was posted explicitly said that the kid was demonstrating his Linux laptop; the teacher was aware of this so that any other suspicions must have been dismissed right there:

"Upon looking at his computer, I saw he was giving a demonstration of some sort. The student was showing the ability of the laptop and handing out Linux disks."

While it's true that the kid may have caused a fuss, I think it's the teacher's overreaction that caused this thing to become blown out of proportion. The HeliOS guy only needed to post the letter that he received; even if he hadn't commented and made some harsh statements himself, the posting would have been enough to rouse the Linux/FOSS communities.

I guess the moral of this story then is: cool lang, overreacting is bad. :)

i guess the reaction of that teacher is normal, since most of the computer user uses Windows OS and they are fully aware that the software they are using is "not free" and giving out copies of it means "Piracy"!.

Oo nga! Pero I strongly believe na act of "piracy" na if you're earning monetary na sa isang bagay like burning ng DVD movie and selling it for 50 pesos -- for me yan ang piracy.

Piracy is a crime and you are a criminal if you are using a pirated software..

But u can avoid committing crime by supporting open source software

linux is not holding back your kids but linux is teaching your kids to be a HUMAN BEING and not to be a criminal.

killer_d76 said: i guess the reaction of that teacher is normal, since most of the computer user uses Windows OS and they are fully aware that the software they are using is "not free" and giving out copies of it means "Piracy"!.

The teacher says in her letter that she had tried Linux when she was in college; therefore, she must know that the kid wasn't distributing pirated software, nor advocating piracy.

Jepong: Heto, interesting find... (hehehe!)

185.1. The fair use of a copyrighted work for criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching including multiple copies for classroom use, scholarship, research, and similar purposes is not an infringement of copyright. Decompilation, which is understood here to be the reproduction of the code and translation of the forms of the computer program to achieve the inter-operability of an independently created computer program with other programs may also constitute fair use. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is fair use, the factors to be considered shall include:

(a) The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for non-profit education purposes; (b) The nature of the copyrighted work; (c) The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and (d) The effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

http://www.chanrobles.com/legal7ipcp.htm

I take it that this means that in the Philippines, if you have the know-how, every computer application that you can get your hands on is *Open Source*. What you can't do though is sell your modified work nor give it away; because that will have a commercial nature or affect the potential market value of the computer application, respectively.

But you can always teach other people how to modify their own (legitimately acquired) copies of the software that you worked on. Or perhaps, release your own patches for the software. Or maybe, build your own software that is analogous to the one you decompiled.

Hehehe! :lolflag: