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Turning the net into cyberspace?

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I had an idea for a program, I hope this is the place for it. Imagine this: You open your web browser, and you see the virtual representation of yourself materialize in your home page, which in this case we'll say is Google.com. your avatar is in a white room, the search bar above you, floating in space. the links to other areas of the google website are represented as text links, floating in space, on the peripherals of the room. An ocean of avatars churns about you in muted grayscale. Holding down the right click button you turn your avatar in any direction. The scroll button moves you forward and backwards in space. You decide to chat with a friend while you surf the net via Stumbleupon. you allocate a portion of your field of vision to the chat session, let's say the lowermost portion, and use the rest to surf. You stumble upon a site with a particularly fascinating story, or article. you see it as text upon a wall, with pictures floating to the side, tied by loose lines to the points in the text corresponding to the place they took in the two dimensional page. you zoom in and read, tugging down images to look at when you get to them. You see an avatar that looks interesting, you flag it for a chat, it accepts, and animates, gaining color, and dimension. The two of you chat, and you've made a friend.

This probably sounds impossible, and very well may be, I've no ability to code. My thoughts are that it could be based upon firefox, and compatible with 2d webpages by rendering them in 3d in the manner I described with the article. System requirements could be kept low by allowing resolution resizing, and rendering other avatars as a single, greyscale, low resolution, image with no animation, it could be refreshed as often as the user set it to be.

Googling around to see if this existed I found http://q.exitreality.com/ but it doesn't support linux, and seems to be

#2

These sort of things are always a pipe dream. People developed this sort of interfaces before the dotcom bust and found that they were a completely unnecessary and unintuitive way of surfing the Internet. It was thought that this sort of thing would help shoppers in a virtual store, but as I said before it was more cumbersome than the way it is now. Printing brochures aren't pop-up books of the store, so it was realized that the online store didn't have to be either.

In your particular case wouldn't the avatar get in the way of the content when you try to zoom? How would you see your avatar, and the other, without obstructing your view of the website you're also looking at.

#3

Hey there Preyor, glad to see you have a good imagination. I also had ideas about this a long time ago and when I looked into it I realized it had been done before.

Your concept as applied to an entire desktop environmnt (which I have run on linux)

http://www.opencroquet.org/index.php/Main_Page

Your concept as they tried to implement for the web alone (which failed to become popular)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VRML

And finally, the closest implementation to this currently is Second Life, which is going strong and also runs on linux.

http://secondlife.com/

I hope these links help you, and you realize that Firefox isn't the place for this - if this were to happen it would have to be either a plugin like VRML, or else its own program like SecondLife. The purpose of Firefox is to read pages designed in 2D space, and that's what it is good at. What you desire is an online network that is accessible through a 3D environment, which again, doesn't ever replace the 2D web. The technology is there, but the desire amongst businesses and the public isn't yet.