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#1

Ive just installed fedora from live cd , took ten minutes.

Then I go install ubuntu from alternate, took about forty!!

I thought ubuntu was linux for human beings not immortals!!!

I think the ubuntu devs should also concentrate on faster install times as well as faster boots

#2

used2bnewb said: Ive just installed fedora from live cd , took ten minutes.

Then I go install ubuntu from alternate, took about forty!! You do realize you're comparing apples to oranges, right?

used2bnewb said: I thought ubuntu was linux for human beings not immortals!!!

20 Minutes is all the separates me from immortality? Who knew?!!

used2bnewb said: I think the ubuntu devs should also concentrate on faster install times as well as faster boots

Brilliant! I'll alert the Developers immediately.

Translation:

Your trolling skill's are lacking: 4.5/10

The German judge gives you a solid 6.0 though...

#3

It was nice for Therion to give you a quick reply. However I have to agree with used2bnewb. At least we have something to look forward to in future releases.

I would like to, though, encourage you to continue using Ubuntu. Maybe a second chance of using it post-install will chance your opinions.

Good luck

#4

See if 9.04 is better when april comes around. Thanks, bye.

#5

birddog165 said: It was nice for Therion to give you a quick reply. However I have to agree with used2bnewb. At least we have something to look forward to in future releases.

I would like to, though, encourage you to continue using Ubuntu. Maybe a second chance of using it post-install will chance your opinions.

Good luck Well I am still using ubuntu but I've just posted it to point out that ubuntu still has a very slow install time but when you look at fedora the install time takes 10 minutes on live cd!!

And I had just installed fedora to try it out by the way

#6

yaa..I'm immortal \o/

:KS

#7

Artificial Intelligence said: yaa..I'm immortal \o/

:KS

Show off

#8

The Alternate CD always takes longer to install than the Desktop CD (which is Ubuntu's live CD, by the way - it would make sense to compare the Ubuntu live CD to the Fedora live CD, wouldn't it?).

As I understand it, the Desktop CD has a compressed image of the installation that it just copies over to install, and that's why it takes about 10 minutes (yes, it takes about 10 minutes in Ubuntu, too, if you use the live CD instead of the Alternate one).

The Alternate CD, on the other hand, has the actual packages used for installing and unpacks each one and installs each one individually, which takes a lot longer. The Alternate CD is good for special situations (low RAM, for example). If you want a speedy installation, I don't know why you'd use the Alternate CD.

In any case, why can't humans wait 40 minutes? Imagine the life span (beyond immortality, I guess) of all those Windows users who took literally hours, if not days to get Windows installed.

#9

:popcorn:

#10

strange. it's never taken me more than 20-25 minutes to install. but then again, we all know *your* computer is the *standard* by which everything is judged. what was i thinking?

#11

Izek said: Show off

Envy is a bad thing :popcorn:

/me goes back to his immortality life

#12

I think ive probably averaged about 20-25 minutes across all the PCs i`ve ever installed Ubuntu on but then again i am a Highlander.

EDIT:Hell,i can download *and* install in 30 min`s.

#13

I can do a minimal install in under 10 minutes... though it would probably resemble your 10min fedora install as well. I'd be very interested in the point your trying to make, a 40min regular ubuntu install includes a lot of what most of us consider to be essential software; it takes a certain amount of time to create and format partitions, it then takes a certain amount of time to install the complete system, it then takes a certain amount of time to install the software, 40minutes is nothing. If its really a big deal one can always multi-task by grabbing a shower, or watching a southpark episode.... of course humans don't live long enough to make it through a full episode of southpark, perhaps they should cut that down to 10min.

used2bnewb said: Ive just installed fedora from live cd , took ten minutes.

Then I go install ubuntu from alternate, took about forty!!

I thought ubuntu was linux for human beings not immortals!!!

I think the ubuntu devs should also concentrate on faster install times as well as faster boots

#14

It takes about that long for me (10 minutes). I do agree with the startup time. A shorter startup time will hurt windows real bad. But it wont be easy with windows 7's 30 second startup time. although, i never use the alternate install, so I wouldn't know about that. Overall, I can completely set up Ubuntu in 1-2 hours if I were not to install much. With windows on the other hand, well that's a different story. I have to put it on, wait the *long* time for it to install, then I have to setup everything (remove IE), activate it, put an av on... (not trying to bash, great OS, just it takes a while)

Regards, 3v4n

#15

I've installed 8.04 numerous times (and I do mean NUMEROUS), so maybe practice makes perfect, but for me going from initial LiveCD boot to a well and fully configured Ubuntu system - including a full reformat/partitioning, updating and installing of essential software - takes two hours. At that point it's fully tricked-out and rocking my world.

For a totally fresh install of XP, including a full reformat and partitioning, updating, installing of essential software and general customization, I set aside a weekend.

#16

Hmmm... I'm just thinking... If I copy the /var/apt/cache dir from a full updated machine to a recently installed one will I get a very fast update time?

#17

Therion said: I've installed 8.04 numerous times (and I do mean NUMEROUS), so maybe practice makes perfect, but for me going from initial LiveCD boot to a well and fully configured Ubuntu system - including a full reformat/partitioning, updating and installing of essential software - takes two hours. At that point it's fully tricked-out and rocking my world.

For a totally fresh install of XP, including a full reformat and partitioning, updating, installing of essential software and general customization, I set aside a weekend.

It takes me about three hours or so to get Ubuntu up and going from a raw drive...but that's including formatting a 500GB hard drive and copying ~70GB of data from an external USB hard drive to that 500GB internal...which takes an hour and a half all by itself.

Windows XP...including format and partitioning, updates and all software/data installed and copied...usually six to eight hours. Of course, I really used to know my way around Windows, and I have a very fast internet connection for those updates.

But even if it were reversed, and Ubuntu took days to install, I'd *still *use it over Windows XP. Not because I hate Microsoft or anything, but simply because I love Ubuntu. :cool:

#18

I don't feel any different; was the immortality incantation chanted at the full moon, or did you do it a day late?

#19

Artificial Intelligence said: Envy is a bad thing :popcorn:

/me goes back to his immortality life

what are you talking about, envy is a great thing. it handles my graphics issues beautifully. Envy is one of the best things that has ever happened in my immortal digital life.

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