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#1

Will ubuntu(or any other linux distro) ever be as good as or better then mac os x?:confused:

#2

for me, they already are ;)

#3

meborc said: for me, they already are ;)

+1

I far prefer the freedom to customize the desktop in anyway that I want. Also I am in no way interested in editing photos or making movies so I wouldn't waste my money on a mac.

#4

define good

#5

Yet another post that should be in Recurring Discussions and i bet in most peoples books it is better.

#6

meborc said: for me, they already are ;)

Agreed. I find Ubuntu more enjoyable to use than OSX.

#7

For me this is just a matter of personal taste. At this moment I like Ubuntu more than other distros/windows/mac/...

But go ask the same question on a mac forum and they'll tell you something else :).

#8

Moved to Recurring Discussions.

And for me, both have their uses :)

#9

seriously doubt it. Linux is seriously fragmented. No director even closely to what does what Steve Jobs does. How many OSs for the MAC?

How many OSs for Linux? A lot.

Everyone pulling in different directions.

My grand daughter went away to college with a MAC she purchased just be for starting. She had been using XP at home for at least four years. I took a look at he MAC before she left and I was amazed at how much easier to use than Ubuntu. Ubuntu has a blank desk top. She did not configure the PC before I tried it either. Right out of the box, it is much easier than Ubuntu and other Linux distributions. I will stick with Ubuntu though. It works for me. Right now, Linux is hardly a bump on the log.

Rich

#10

OSX has better apps...

#11

richg said:

How many OSs for Linux? A lot.

Everyone pulling in different directions.

I am not so very zealous to protect linux, but some correction here.

1) How many OS for MAC - Mac OS and Linux :)

2) How many OS for Linux should read as many distros for Linux. Ubuntu is just one of them. Linus and his nerds are still humming away at the kernel oblivious of the distros :)

Regarding puling in different directions, this very effect enhances the power of linux. Different distros doing their own thing again lands up with some consolidation in the distro world. Take several key tools like network manager, wireless manager, search tools pioneered by some distro and adopted in the very next version of some other distro.

Unfortunatley a powerful but misunderstood feature is the forking ability of distros. Ubuntu based on debian, gentoo based on ubuntu and so on... This just gives users with diff requires power to do things differently

IMHO, this has resulted in the speedy growth of linux.

#12

I would use Linux anyday than a Mac.

#13

I would love to use a mac, but they are just too expensive. In the middle of burning a cd of ubuntu to dual boot with XP on my newer computer (took me a while to get around to it).

#14

They're both good, although I'd love to have some OS X apps in Linux. But it all depends on your needs and what you do, for example I'm a programmer so I mainly edit source code and scripts and my design needs are fulfilled by GIMP and Inkscape. On the other hand a buddy of mine is in the Design field and he uses Macs.

#15

Macs are for dilettantes and they want your blood.

#16

The frustration levels of me using a mac is too high to count. The system is not for me. However, if I need to work with audio at any point, Mac has one of the best apps just for that (Soundtrack Pro, a feature of Final Cut Studio). I've only had to do audio editing twice in the last five years so I can't see any good reason for owning a mac.

Also, I can't stand having to carry around a mouse with the laptop just so I can have a second mouse button.

So, will Linux (in general) ever be as good? I'd say it's surpassed Mac by a few years and then some. This is especially true if you just look at the operating systems and nothing of the applications you can find for it.

I'm still waiting for that tutorial to make an OSX desktop look like Linux.

#17

Also, I can't stand having to carry around a mouse with the laptop just so I can have a second mouse button.

On the new trackpad you can select an area of it for use as a second mouse button, for example my fiancée uses the bottom right hand corner of hers for this purpose, click down there and you get the options for right click on a mouse.

#18

beyboo said:

Regarding pulling in different directions, this very effect enhances the power of linux. Different distros doing their own thing again lands up with some consolidation in the distro world. Take several key tools like network manager, wireless manager, search tools pioneered by some distro and adopted in the very next version of some other distro.

IMHO, this has resulted in the speedy growth of linux.

You are correct to a certain extent. I think this WAS a good thing but i think Linux has grown so fast in a relatively short amount of time but there is still a lot that needs to be improved.

Having said that i think the different direction now will start playing against the development of Linux and hold ups could become frequent. Just look at how Ubuntu still has no OOo3. Not even in Jaunty yet. Ubuntu wont get Plymouth until 9.10 now either.

Also because it has grown so much in the user base, the developers base hasnt really grown maybe even dropped, so now you have them needing to get more done in the same amount of time. I understand and like the beauty of Open Source but i just think it has grown so much that there needs to be some kind of structure now.

I really think all the major distros need to get together and think about syncing their realeases to maybe within 2 weeks of each other and then they need to talk to the guys at Gnome, KDE, Xfce, OOo, Xorg, Compiz and things like that so that they too can sync their releases within a couple weeks of each other but 2 months ahead of the Distro releases. This way they always make Feature Freeze for the Distro releases but the Distros are all working together on the same projects and contributing equally upstream.

I think this way we will see things become a lot more stable with less bugs surfacing but still moving at a good pace.

As for the original question, i think it will always come down to personal preference but i do believe in the next 5 years that Linux will be a threat to both Apple and MS. I think we may even see Games with Linux compatibility.

It will all come down to how Linux progresses though.

#19

As for the original question, i think it will always come down to personal preference but i do believe in the next 5 years that Linux will be a threat to both Apple and MS.

I think we may even see Games with Linux compatibility.

It will all come down to how Linux progresses though.

Well, Linux is already a very big threat to microsoft, in theserver side, poor windows server does not have enough cake.

As for gaming support, well wonders have been done in the wine side, and even so, we still have good native commercial games, like quake wars, quake 4 doom 3 and expansion...

Id software has been good to us ;)

#20

richg said: seriously doubt it. Linux is seriously fragmented. No director even closely to what does what Steve Jobs does.

How many OSs for the MAC?

How many OSs for Linux? A lot.

Everyone pulling in different directions.

One direction? Sounds good. Make sure you get rid of those stupid little graphical configuration tools, only install a command line system by default, and don't waste hosting space on forums when users could just read the man pages.

Wait, some people actually have different expectations than me?!

#21

chamber said: On the new trackpad you can select an area of it for use as a second mouse button, for example my fiancée uses the bottom right hand corner of hers for this purpose, click down there and you get the options for right click on a mouse.

How do you set that in Linux? I mean, if I had mac hardware, I still wouldn't use the macOS.

#22

I have both, and think Ubuntu/Linux is really nice for 90% of what I do. It's excellent compared to using windows. I like the file system or window management system or whatever it's called in Ubuntu. But, the other day I took out my digital camera and shot my first video of a snowstorm, used Quicktime pro, took a song from iTunes to replace the background noise track. The entire process took about 40minutes and I burned CDs as Christmas card stuffers, then uploaded it to youtube. I had never shot a video or tried to make one before. I shudder to think how this process would have been like on Linux. I also have a nice firewire iSight camera and use Skype and iChat depending on the preference of the person at the other end. I am not afraid to try new things with the mac and the idea of cost is irrelevant to me. For a laptop I think Ubuntu/Linux various flavors is quite sufficient. I am using Kiwilinux so I have to add not one single thing and it plays dvds, flash, etc. One thing many people don't know about mac os is that with a right click mouse, there are many useful functions with it. So, I don't feel deprived in any way. Mac hardware is awesome also, I have an aluminum laptop and a mac mini, both are solid and pretty.

#23

Spr0k3t said: How do you set that in Linux? I mean, if I had mac hardware, I still wouldn't use the macOS.

Very good question, she refuses to let me dual boot with it so I can't check.

If I figure it out I'll post again.