I'm willing to wager large amounts of fictional money that Ubuntu 9.10 will be the first release to go by the critter name rather than the adjective in its shortened version. Any takers? Opinions?
"Karmic" or "Koala"?
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ricardisimo said: I'm willing to wager large amounts of fictional money that Ubuntu 9.10 will be the first release to go by the critter name rather than the adjective in its shortened version. Any takers? Opinions?
im really looking forward to karmic. no more fugly orange :D
cat /etc/lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=9.10
DISTRIB_CODENAME=karmic
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu karmic (development branch)"
loell said: cat /etc/lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=9.10
DISTRIB_CODENAME=karmic
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu karmic (development branch)"
what is that?
loell said: cat /etc/lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=9.10
DISTRIB_CODENAME=karmic
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu karmic (development branch)"
OMG HAX :p
Mokoma said: im really looking forward to karmic. no more fugly orange :D
Orange isnt fugly!!! :mad::lolflag:
calvinps said: Orange isnt fugly!!! :mad::lolflag:
no the scheme is iconic to me now, i just wanna see some vista style blinggggggggg. and a new decent font
"Karmic" or "Koala?"
Yes.
FuturePilot said: OMG HAX :p
didn't you know that the pre-pre-alpha has started already? :D
Mokoma said: im really looking forward to karmic. no more fugly orange :D
I wouldn't be holding my breath for that though, We've been hearing this since Hardy! NOTE: I'm fine with the current warm colour scheme and I usually like blue and green.
Karmic Koala sounded so awkward at first but you hear the release names so many times that they become very familiar. Ubuntu 'Karmic' will probably catch on as much as 'Hardy' or 'Intrepid' did.
'Dapper Drake' was probably the coolest name so far though. I can completely imagine a well dressed avian mascot a la Tux.
Mokoma said: what is that?
it means DISTRIB_CODENAME supersedes all. :lolflag:
loell said: cat /etc/lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=9.10
DISTRIB_CODENAME=karmic
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu karmic (development branch)"
D'Oh!!! There goes the mortgage on my house!
ricardisimo said: D'Oh!!! There goes the mortgage on my house!
comm'n now, don't take me for a fool! I know you have another wager quadruple the amount, that you will loose this one.
so gimmie my share.. 8-)
Leapin' Lizards!
Karmic.
Doesn't have a nice ring to it, but I'll get used to it.
Mokoma said: im really looking forward to karmic. no more fugly orange :D
:lolflag:
You're a little early for the six monthly "OMG, they have to change the default theme THIS time!" thread.
I suppose I could fall back to claiming that what I really meant was "popular usage" in these forums, rather than the official codename. It kind of was what I was thinking... it never occurred to me that there was not only an official silly handle for releases, but also an official shortened version of the silly handle.
So, two months after its release, I'll do a Google search within ubuntuforums.org for each word, then collect my limitless booty from all of you suckers who fell right into my trap! And to think they called me "mad" at the university!
how about a simple... Kuddly Koala? :D
Well, in the announcements, Shuttleworth said that there would be a new, non-orange look for Ubuntu, and Karmic (which is an awesome codename :D) is supposed to be the first distro that the hired art team is supposed to work on. Personally, I hope it doesn't end up as Vista or OSX "bling". But I run Openbox, and adore minimalism on an artistic level, so maybe I'm a bit biased. I think we all want a unique, yet attractive image though.
Wish these stupid names would be dropped, the numbers are far better.
I'm at a loss when it comes to understanding the very strong feelings people have about Ubuntu's default color scheme.
For starters, even if it were "fugly" it's become a nifty signature. Not even Windows, as ubiquitous as it is, can be spotted from across a room just by one color (although the sky in that one pasture background came close, I'll admit.)
Secondly, it's not ugly. It's not going to knock any art critics out of their chairs, but it's not some sort of hideous corporate logo either. I think it's alright.
gn2 said: Wish these stupid names would be dropped, the numbers are far better.
The average consumers remembers names much better, hence ME, XP, VISTA, Seven, etc.
Umm... how about 9.10? When you ubuntu people start talking about jaunties and intrepids I get really confused. :)
spupy said: umm... How about 9.10? When you ubuntu people start talking about jaunties and intrepids i get really confused. :)
lol
Computer nerds and nerds in general think numbers are easier/nicer to remember. That's why I like to refer to my Ubuntu with its version rather than saying Jaunty Jaunterlope, or whatever it was.
I'll flick between calling it 9.10 and karmic :)
It depends who I'm talking to really, if I know the person I'm talking to will know what I mean when I say Hardy/Intrepid/Jaunty, then I'll use that rather than the version number.
And no, I have no idea why :)
Joeb454 said: I'll flick between calling it 9.10 and karmic :)
It depends who I'm talking to really, if I know the person I'm talking to will know what I mean when I say Hardy/Intrepid/Jaunty, then I'll use that rather than the version number.
And no, I have no idea why :)
But if you make a forum post using "Jaunty" some (many?) people will not know what release you're on about whereas if you use "7.10" everyone will know instantly what release you mean.
Why have such a useful and informative numbering scheme then replace it with a stupid name?
@ Pasdar, Microsoft don't release a new name every six months, so there are far fewer names to remember. Imagine if they renamed the OS at every servicepack, for current desktop operating systems, there would be five W2k's, four Xp's and three Vistas making twelve names to remember instead of three.
Also, Windows used to (and have now returned to) version number names or similar.
win 1
win2
win3.1 (lets forget 3.0)
win95 (new scheme)
win98 SE (forget the first release)
win2000 (lets forget ME)
then the meaningless names.
then the original naming scheme: Win 7
For most people remembering Ubuntu 98 is easier than remembering Ubuntu 8.04.2, Which is the current version of LTS. Windows also has a real version number, and that is not i.e. 95, 98, 2000, 7 etc, its:
Windows 95 retail, OEM - 4.00.950 Windows 95 retail SP1 - 4.00.950A OEM Service Release 2 - 4.00.1111* (4.00.950B) OEM Service Release 2.1 - 4.03.1212-1214* (4.00.950B) OEM Service Release 2.5 - 4.03.1214* (4.00.950C) Windows 98 retail, OEM - 4.10.1998 Windows 98, Security CD - 4.10.1998A Windows 98 Second Edition - 4.10.2222A Windows 98 SE Security CD - 4.10.2222B Windows Me - 4.90.3000 Windows Me Security CD - 4.90.3000A
Mehall said:
then the meaningless names.
They're no more meaningless than any other brand name. Just look at cars, their names are generally complete gibberish (eg: Prius). Only the cars for enthusiasts (ie: car geeks) have techy names like DB7.
Would the iPod have caught on so well if it was called an MP-265d? Or a B-iX172? I say: hell no.
This thought always goes through my head when I hear future release names, I definitely though it for Intrepid because 3 syllables just sounded weird. I got used to it quickly.
gn2 said: Wish these stupid names would be dropped, the numbers are far better.
I don't know.
If you say you are using Ubuntu Hardy Heron or Ubuntu 8.04, I think Hardy Heron sounds better.
Paqman said: They're no more meaningless than any other brand name. Just look at cars, their names are generally complete gibberish (eg: Prius). Only the cars for enthusiasts (ie: car geeks) have techy names like DB7.
Would the iPod have caught on so well if it was called an MP-265d? Or a B-iX172? I say: hell no.
Peugeot use a model-revision scheme. 206, 207, 208
306, 307, 308 405, 406, 407
etc.
Some others do too.
My family always buy Peugeot :P
billgoldberg said: If you say you are using Ubuntu Hardy Heron or Ubuntu 8.04, I think Hardy Heron sounds better.
Opinions vary, seems mine is different to yours on this matter. :)
Wish these stupid names would be dropped, the numbers are far better.
The animal names are *development* code names. On release day, "Hardy Heron" officially becomes "Ubuntu 8.04".
I'm at a loss when it comes to understanding the very strong feelings people have about Ubuntu's default color scheme.
For starters, even if it were "fugly" it's become a nifty signature. Not even Windows, as ubiquitous as it is, can be spotted from across a room just by one color (although the sky in that one pasture background came close, I'll admit.)
Secondly, it's not ugly. It's not going to knock any art critics out of their chairs, but it's not some sort of hideous corporate logo either. I think it's alright.
Yeah, it's part of Ubuntu's branding at this point; they shouldn't change it too drastically. Being instantly recognizable as Ubuntu is a definite plus.
23meg said: The animal names are *development* code names. On release day, "Hardy Heron" officially becomes "Ubuntu 8.04".
If only people would refer to it by the numbers after release.... :rolleyes:
I'm just glad "Intrepid" will be gone soon. What a terrible word to stick to a release. "Hardy" was probably the best.
gn2 said: If only people would refer to it by the numbers after release.... :rolleyes:
Although I find it easy enough, I've noticed that sometimes people appear to be confused by the numbers: how many times have you seen something like "8.1" instead of "8.10"? or "7.5"?
If what you say is true, then why does this forum refer to it in a wrong way? Look under everyone's post count.
Pasdar said: If what you say is true, then why does this forum refer to it in a wrong way? Look under everyone's post count.
It uses both the number and the code name for stable releases, and only the code name for the development branch. That's good practice, given that the main function of this site is providing support to people of varying levels of experience with Ubuntu, some of whom can be familiar with (and know the release they are using by) pre-release code names, and some only with version numbers.
I was talking about the *official* naming policy, which people are free to take up or not to. There's no real use in enforcing use of language, especially in trivial matters like this.
Methuselah said: Yeah, it's part of Ubuntu's branding at this point; they shouldn't change it too drastically.
Being instantly recognizable as Ubuntu is a definite plus.
I agree.
While I think they should make it less orange/brown and use more neutral colors, they shouldn't get rid of orange/brown, that's what make Ubuntu different.
The orange by itself is nice, but most programs/sites weren't made for it, so they will look weird (if you've ever opened Gmail with Ubuntu's default theme, you'll see what I mean).
I've changed my theme to something more color neutral, but I still kept some orange things, so my Ubuntu will still look like Ubuntu.
Koala brings much nicer associations (with cuddly things), rather than karmic( destiny, duty, mind your actions and so on)... Koalas are so cute!