Nothing else running first app to start and it takes an age.
Same with Jaunty and Intrepid.
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Nothing else running first app to start and it takes an age.
Same with Jaunty and Intrepid.
Closer to five seconds for me. You could try launching firefox via terminal and see if there are any errors.
Have You tried to disable IPV6 ?
Mine is under 5 seconds, I left the home page from the install.
All of Koala is extremely slow for me currently. I am thinking it is the effect of a bad update somewhere. The churn is very high so I would wait a week or so and see if the problem doesn't go away on it's own once things cool down a tad.
If not then we can start triaging this bad boy.
mabovo said: Have You tried to disable IPV6 ?
Makes no diff.
10 seconds for me too cold start , both intrepid and jaunty.
~9 seconds for me too. Imagine firefox opening instantly :lolflag:
Ya I have seen this also. Have you tried new profile?
I have also see high CPU usage with plug-ins, mostly flash and java, since 3.0.9.
This is a completely clean install of jaunty upgraded to karmic. So new profile and no addons except the default ones. Not even flash.
I think its this FF-3.0.10. For some reason it doesnt feel very stable for me either. I get lots of lock-ups and the screen turns gray. I think it has something to do with Flash too though. Hopefully the next Flash will be much better and that we'll have a native 64bit Flash.
We have a native 64 bit flash , but its still in aplha i believe.
But i have to say, even the repo version is equally as bad for me.
Iam sticking with 64 bit flash for now.
Ya , newer firefox did crash on me a couple of times too with flash.
Maybe in the "upper division" :) but these articles explains a lot and also the challenge with SQLlite
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-717117.html
http://www.verot.net/firefox_tmpfs.htm
Using RAM is extremely faster.....maybe something to look at ???
Hmm, I don't seem to have any of the problems described in this post. If anything, my Firefox has got faster.
I hope you guys get your problems solved though. Firefox isn't exactly the fastest browser....
Slug71 said: I think its this FF-3.0.10. For some reason it doesnt feel very stable for me either. I get lots of lock-ups and the screen turns gray. I think it has something to do with Flash too though.
Hopefully the next Flash will be much better and that we'll have a native 64bit Flash.
I agree something changed in 3.0.9 or 3.0.10 which is making flash use high cpu. I am even seeing this in Windows.
I've been having a couple of problems with Firefox - it's disappeared (shut itself down) once or twice when I've been typing a post and the copy and paste doesn't work. The text highlights OK then before I can use Copy (either mouse or kb) the highlight turns grey and it won't copy. I've had to revert to Jaunty for posting :(
Can't say I've noticed much difference in the speed.
I really hope FF-3.5 is going to be a lot better than this 3.x.x crap. If its not then i really think Ubuntu needs to look at adopting a different Browser as its default.
Gina said: I've been having a couple of problems with Firefox - it's disappeared (shut itself down) once or twice when I've been typing a post and the copy and paste doesn't work. The text highlights OK then before I can use Copy (either mouse or kb) the highlight turns grey and it won't copy. I've had to revert to Jaunty for posting :(
Can't say I've noticed much difference in the speed.
Apart from the thread title here's some more.
Awesome bar and copy and paste stop working randomly. Have to close FF and restart to get copy/paste going. Awesome bar by going to a couple of websites via bookmarks then it suddenly works again.
philinux said: Apart from the thread title here's some more.
Awesome bar and copy and paste stop working randomly. Have to close FF and restart to get copy/paste going. Awesome bar by going to a couple of websites via bookmarks then it suddenly works again.
I find that happens when I'm using compiz, still not sure of the exact trigger.
One other thing while we're talking about Firefox... I still get the odd black rectangle at times as reported with Jaunty.
Running FF3.6a1pre, loads of addons and Weave.
Anyhow, just for lulz I recently tried running my Acer with elevator=noop (seeing as my hdd has NCQ I wanted to see if it would be better or worse). Apart from most things running a bit slower Firefox loaded in a flash - under a second. deadline or cfq and it's back to 9-ish seconds.
This really strikes me as one of those sitauation where having some tracing functionality and some predefined scripts would shed some light on the problem.
We know it's consistently slow for a number of people, it would though be nice to know where things are going astray.
gnomeuser said: This really strikes me as one of those sitauation where having some tracing functionality and some predefined scripts would shed some light on the problem.
We know it's consistently slow for a number of people, it would though be nice to know where things are going astray.
Would strace firefox work?
In jaunty I had to update the kernel and drivers for my Intel graphics to watch full screen video. No biggie, everything was good, better even. When new FF update came things acted really bizarre. Bookmarks opened and closed slowly, and the whole bookmarks sidebar acted slow and strange like. FF was noticeably slower. Downloading from internet slowed. Changing from one web site to another was slow. I thought I was using Windows with some high powered A/V slowing things down. You know what I mean. That hesitation while the A/V scans the incoming data.
Thinking it was the upgrade I did for the graphics, I did a complete reinstall, and things are better. Have not upgraded the driver and kernal. The upgrade must have caused some instability with the graphics and the FF update picked up on it and exaggerated the thing. My best guess for my situation so far.
In Karmic. No problems. Just a minimal FF to browse and do stuff to check for bugs and such. Smooth so far.
Michael
olskar said: Would strace firefox work?
It is my understanding that strace give us information on when the application does system calls. Reading Fredricos guides to performance profiling your application calls for using strace along with some custom code.
The approach basically involves inserting a bit of code that calls a cheap syscall at all the interesting spots in your code. This means modifying the firefox code and doing a custom compile.
On the whole that does not seem like something I would be apt to deploy to users - unless of course one was to create a ppa for firefox with this code inserted, and still the solution seems oddly misfitting.
philinux said: Apart from the thread title here's some more.
Awesome bar and copy and paste stop working randomly. Have to close FF and restart to get copy/paste going. Awesome bar by going to a couple of websites via bookmarks then it suddenly works again.
I have seen issues with compiz and focus issues...specially logging back from locked screen. Something other then active window gets focus. I have to switch to the app to get focus back.
When I first ran into this, I would not see filtered results when typing in the address bar. I thought firefox was not working so I was restarting it. But then noticed the same focus issue with other application active after logging back from logged screen. Switching application seemed to fix it but really annoying.
FF has worked well for me, taking 2-3 seconds max to load from a cold start. There are many things beside just the browser that come into play for web speed.
How fast is your internet connection? 28k dialup or 6mps cable? How fast is your processor & how much ram do u have? a slug is a slug. What web page are you trying to load? no 2 pages are equal. How many add-ons do you have FF loaded down with? These take time.
These are just some of the variables. There are many more. No two computers are alike.
freeman2000 said: FF has worked well for me, taking 2-3 seconds max to load from a cold start. There are many things beside just the browser that come into play for web speed.
These are just some of the variables. There are many more. No two computers are alike.
How fast is your internet connection? 8mps cable How fast is your processor & how much ram do u have? 2,4 ghz and 3gb ram What web page are you trying to load? www.google.com How many add-ons do you have FF loaded down with? One
Opens in ~ 9 seconds cold (but in ~2 seconds when already opened once)
What if you disable "automatically check for updates" option in FF does that speed it up any?
freeman2000 said: FF has worked well for me, taking 2-3 seconds max to load from a cold start. There are many things beside just the browser that come into play for web speed.
How fast is your internet connection? 28k dialup or 6mps cable? How fast is your processor & how much ram do u have? a slug is a slug. What web page are you trying to load? no 2 pages are equal. How many add-ons do you have FF loaded down with? These take time.
These are just some of the variables. There are many more. No two computers are alike.
My understanding is that this thread is not concerned with the speed of a network connection, only the time it takes for Firefox to launch. The only variables that should matter are related to memory, kernel and disk performance.
Except that Firefox by default tries to open some webpage. Which does require the Internet connection so it's back into the equation from there on. My explanation would be that Firefox simply is that slow/fast.
Reiger said: Except that Firefox by default tries to open some webpage. Which does require the Internet connection so it's back into the equation from there on. My explanation would be that Firefox simply is that slow/fast.
It's very unlikely that loading the initial homepage significantly affects startup performance. To remove this variable, I suggest we set the default homepage to "about:blank" while testing.
yes, which is why i thought about the "check for automatic updates" which happens before FF window appears i believe and can attempt to connect to the internet which might take very long...