Kernel 2.6.15 + new udev

Hi,

Kernel 2.6.15 and the new udev obsoletes hotplug, so that our system boot ups will be much much faster. Please see if it is possible, but i hope its not too "intrusive" by your standards. :( It will be a real help, on my piii 550mhz :)

Thanks, Rohan.

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Hi,

Kernel 2.6.15 and the new udev obsoletes hotplug, so that our system boot ups will be much much faster. Please see if it is possible, but i hope its not too "intrusive" by your standards. :( It will be a real help, on my piii 550mhz :)

Thanks, Rohan. What is this 'udev obsoletes hotplug'?

What is this 'udev obsoletes hotplug'? from the udev package in dapper :

Package: udev

Version: 079-0ubuntu3 Section: admin Priority: important Architecture: i386 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libselinux1 (>= 1.28), libsepol1 (>= 1.10), module-init-tools (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu3), initramfs-tools (>= 0.040ubuntu1), grepmap (>= 1.1.0-1) [b]Conflicts: hotplug Replaces: hotplug[/b], initramfs-tools (<< 0.040ubuntu1) Installed-Size: 732 Maintainer: Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com> Description: rule-based device node and kernel event manager udev is a collection of tools and a daemon to manage events received from the kernel and deal with them in user-space. Primarily this involves creating and removing device nodes in /dev when hardware is discovered or removed from the system. . Events are received via kernel netlink messaged and processed according to rules in /etc/udev/rules.d, altering the name of the device node, creating additional symlinks or calling other tools and programs including those to load kernel modules and initialise the device.

Hello,

Hav0x : 1) The 2.6.15 kernel is in ubuntu dapper. 2) It builds cleanly, of course. 3) Kernel wont introduce any new libraries, so thats not a problem. 4) Same goes for perl/python/gcc. 5) Kernel 2.6.15 is surely meaningful -- because it indirectly helps in faster bootups.

Now, where is the problem ? Even for warty, kernels with the new grepmap were provided, though the backports were not "official" back then.

ashrack: Kernel 2.6.15 depends on the new version of udev, which does the all the work that was earlier managed by hotplug, thus removing the need of hotplug, which used to delay boot ups.

Regards, Rohan.

[-X They wont backport kernels, is all i'm saying ...

3) Kernel wont introduce any new libraries, so thats not a problem.

You have this backwards. It's all the other system packages that rely on specific API/ABI/functionality of the .12 release that would need to be updated ot the new interfaces. Sadly the 'stable' 2.6 kernel release series has devolved into a constantly shifting target.

And what about udev? I'm on breezy ppc, on 2.6.15 + udev 0.060 i lost some nodes (/dev/input/event* for example, needed by pbbuttonsd).. So, what about backporting at least udev? What's the matter with it?

Thanks globe.

EDIT: Tried dpkg -i --simulate with dapperdeb, and it conflicted with hotplug (it will not be more needed, but it is a dep for other packages (kernel,hal) and so it wouldn't just be simple upgrade..

Well.. sad... The dapper livecd i tried booted up really faster than breezy. But yes, i do get your point, havox, macloed, and globe_trotter. :(

Rohan.

Well, perhaps you could try Dapper Flight 3, as some of my friends told me F2 was pretty usable...