Thunderbird 3.1

Installed it today and it won't start; it acts as though there is another copy running. There are no error messages.

I already posted there, too lazy to repost

http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/t_bird_3_1_wont_start?utm_content=topic_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification

I see no answer that works in that thread. Did you get a solution?

thunderbird 3.1 has not yet been released, and thus is not in the ubuntuzilla repositories, which follows official mozilla releases only.

so i recommend you try posting your question in some other section of the forums.

EDIT: oh, i see it /has/ just been released... well i'll push out the update to the repos.

No, whiteshark17. I have no solution. Mine is not working. Using Claws for now. and falling back in love with it.

pelmenept said: No, whiteshark17. I have no solution. Mine is not working. Using Claws for now. and falling back in love with it.

it seems that it could be a problem of something in your profile not being liked by tbird3.1

i can suggest moving your profile out of the way (~/.thunderbird and/or ~/.mozilla-thunderbird), and then try starting again. that'll give you a quick test to see if it's a profile problem or not.

nanotube said: it seems that it could be a problem of something in your profile not being liked by tbird3.1

i can suggest moving your profile out of the way (~/.thunderbird and/or ~/.mozilla-thunderbird), and then try starting again. that'll give you a quick test to see if it's a profile problem or not. Thanks, I'll have a go at something... I may try the last suggestion in my help thread at Mozilla

Does this command work in the repos?

sudo apt-get install thunderbird-3.1 thunderbird-3.1-gnome-support

witeshark17 said: Thanks, I'll have a go at something... I may try the last suggestion in my help thread at Mozilla

Does this command work in the repos?

sudo apt-get install thunderbird-3.1 thunderbird-3.1-gnome-support

there is no thunderbird-3.1 in the repos :(

witeshark17 said: Thanks, I'll have a go at something... I may try the last suggestion in my help thread at Mozilla

Does this command work in the repos?

sudo apt-get install thunderbird-3.1 thunderbird-3.1-gnome-support

depends on the repos. official ubuntu repos - no. ubuntuzilla repo does have tb3.1

Hi, I've upgraded from 3.0.4 to 3.1 via ubuntuzilla repo (on Lucid 10.4/Gnome). The bird is running, but my cpu goes soon over 100%, with no particular errors. I've tried the safe mode, and disabled all plugins and extensions, but it was the same...

Can anyone notice the same error?

I have installed 3.1 today and it won't start no error messages, no anything ??? I can still run the old 3.0.4 by starting the thunderbird.ubuntu. I've tried reinstalling, removing, manually always with same result the command exits with no messages whatsoever???

solution: remove with ubuntuzilla. Install deb file from: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt/pool/main/t/thunderbird-mozilla-build/thunderbird-mozilla-build_3.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb?use_mirror=ovh

I've upgrade to TB 3.1 on Arch Linux and experienced the same issue. Moved all my extensions to a backup directory and it started up fine. By putting them back one at a time, I found the problem to be my LookOut extension. ( ~/.thunderbird/<profile_id.default>/extenstions/lookout@aron.rubin ) So in my case, this was the cause of the problem

Correction, the problem re-occurred. If you start TB without any extensions, it runs. If you start with the Lightning extension, it runs - but with errors on the console.

<code> Error: Parser Error. Could not find 'VCALENDAR' component in: null Stack: 1: [file:///home/xxxxxx/.thunderbird/5m7d5sjk.default/extensions/%7Be2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103%7D/modules/calUtils.jsm -> file:///home/rakeshs/.thunderbird/5m7d5sjk.default/extensions/%7Be2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103%7D/calendar-js/calIcsParser.js:91] ip_processIcalComponent 2: [file:///home/xxxxxx/.thunderbird/5m7d5sjk.default/extensions/%7Be2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103%7D/modules/calUtils.jsm -> file:///home/rakeshs/.thunderbird/5m7d5sjk.default/extensions/%7Be2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103%7D/calendar-js/calIcsParser.js:232] parseString_done 3: [file:///home/xxxxxx/.thunderbird/5m7d5sjk.default/extensions/%7Be2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103%7D/modules/calUtils.jsm:165] response_run </code>

If you close TB and try to re-open, the program will fail to start. I've tried installing the latest (1.0 beta2) version, but no luck.

nanotube, ubuntuzilla doesn't have 64bit

what's even more frustrating, is that one of the key addons for Thunderbird only works with 3.1 in its latest version

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/releases/lightning1.0b2.html

that makes an available upgrade to 3.1 ond Ubuntu even more essential. How hard is it to supply a .deb 64bit of this application? I just don't understand...

FrancoNero said: what's even more frustrating, is that one of the key addons for Thunderbird only works with 3.1 in its latest version

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/releases/lightning1.0b2.html

that makes an available upgrade to 3.1 ond Ubuntu even more essential. How hard is it to supply a .deb 64bit of this application? I just don't understand...

Hi, Well, using the approach taken by ubuntuzilla, which is to pack the original mozilla build binaries into a .deb, it is approximately impossible - since mozilla doesn't make 64bit binary releases.

If you want 64bit, you can compile it from mozilla source yourself, or use the mozilla daily builds repo.

thunderbird-stable repo still only has 3.0.5... so that one is a no-go for now.

what a let-down :( it's like a turf war among open source software providers, and it's either mozilla who has lots of fun excluding 64bit systems or ubuntu who's having lots of fun not allowing major upgrades within stable releases. as if tb 3.1 would crash ubuntu or something, as if it wouldn't crash enough without thunderbird :P

I am having similar problems: since upgrading to 3.1 from ubuntuzilla on a 32 bit ubuntu 9.10, I can start tbird only by first entering safe mode, then restarting. I have to do this each time. Can someone help diagnose this? What info should I submit? The only add on I have is lightning.

Is there a way to revert back to the previous version?

More info: when I run in terminal with safe mode, I get an error message: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnullplugin.so [libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so [libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]

Hi all,

The issue, as discussed on the enigmail forums is because of some permissions issue cause by the ~/.thunderbird -> ~/.mozilla-thunderbird symlink. Running the following commands should help:

 $ cp ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/1.mozilla-thunderbird
 $ unlink ~/.thunderbird
 $ mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/.thunderbird

If anything goes wrong, copy ~/1.mozilla-thunderbird to ~/.thunderbird.

FrancoNero said: what's even more frustrating, is that one of the key addons for Thunderbird only works with 3.1 in its latest version

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/releases/lightning1.0b2.html

that makes an available upgrade to 3.1 ond Ubuntu even more essential. How hard is it to supply a .deb 64bit of this application? I just don't understand... I am using 32 bit Ubuntu 9.04 and I am trying to install it using the instructions from http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ubuntuzilla/index.php?title=Main_Page and here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ubuntuzilla and I did notice the keyserver was very slow I had to use the latters instructions from the web to download the pgp key but my software sources wont update as it need s gpg key? I did download the *.tar.bz2 file and tried this http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/64958-how-install-software-linux.html but that errored out on the decompressing the archive in my terminal. :kihei

I run Ubuntu 9.04 (I have a new computer coming and won't go through the hassle of upgrading first to 9.10 and then to 10.04 on this old one!) and my issue was somewhat different: TB 3.1 started but with blank panes, except in safe mode. I disabled all extensions to no avail. Eventually I downgraded to 3.0.5 from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/ and locked the version. I wonder if Umang's fix will work for me? I have a whole bunch of accounts for the whole family to back up so I'd appreciate to know first if anybody else had the same problem and the fix worked for them on 9.04.

(I should point out that although I'm a forum newbie I'm no Ubuntu newbie -- at least I've been on since 8.04 but have had no occasion to post to the forums before!)

keheikev said: I am using 32 bit Ubuntu 9.04 and I am trying to install it using the instructions from http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ubuntuzilla/index.php?title=Main_Page and here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ubuntuzilla and I did notice the keyserver was very slow I had to use the latters instructions from the web to download the pgp key but my software sources wont update as it need s gpg key? I did download the *.tar.bz2 file and tried this http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/64958-how-install-software-linux.html but that errored out on the decompressing the archive in my terminal.

:kihei

Hi just tried the apt-key command and had no problems getting the key... maybe try again? maybe check if you have any outgoing firewall filtering?

frwmbl said: I wonder if Umang's fix will work for me? I have a whole bunch of accounts for the whole family to back up so I'd appreciate to know first if anybody else had the same problem and the fix worked for them on 9.04.

only way to know if it will work is to try it :)

Umang said: Hi all,

The issue, as discussed on the enigmail forums is because of some permissions issue cause by the ~/.thunderbird -> ~/.mozilla-thunderbird symlink. Running the following commands should help:

 $ cp ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/1.mozilla-thunderbird
 $ unlink ~/.thunderbird
 $ mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/.thunderbird

If anything goes wrong, copy ~/1.mozilla-thunderbird to ~/.thunderbird.

looks like this is caused by a bug in firefox/thunderbird core... I tracked down the following: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576233 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551152

So... until it is fixed, people with symlinks will have to de-symlink their profiles...

I really don't like 3.0.5.I've seen and used 3.1 on a Windows machine and absolutely find it to be major improvement.Having gone thru hell and back with 3.1 in Ubuntu I'm unwilling to try it again until this is fixed.

Any new news regarding this bug?

Its been working fine for me for weeks now. You should probably use the installation instructions from the two above urls I supplied as all the messing with sym links makes me a little sick. Definitely backup your profiles. :kihei

Yes. I've not had any problems after getting rid of the symlink.

How does one get rid of the symlink?What exactly should be done?

I think Nanotubes explanation explains it. I have not had to unlink the links are you able to install tbird 3.1? :kihei

I don't know what a symbolic link is.What folder is it in?What should I look for?Do I delete it?

Norm24 said: How does one get rid of the symlink?What exactly should be done?

 $ cp ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/1.mozilla-thunderbird
 $ unlink ~/.thunderbird
 $ mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/.thunderbird

Umang said:

$ cp ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/1.mozilla-thunderbird $ unlink ~/.thunderbird $ mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/.thunderbird

Error message is the same for all three:

Command not found

Never mind I figured it out.

The freaking $ should not have been included at the beginning of each command line...#-o!

Yes, it's there to indicate that you have to enter it into a prompt. You'll find many people using that $ sign too when copy pasting terminal commands once you start using the terminal a lot.

To elaborate, it's used to distinguish terminal input from output. If you type "ps -e | grep bash" (without quotes) into the terminal, you'll want to see the output. Here's how you'd tell someone, I typed that and got this:

$ ps -e | grep bash
 2900 pts/0    00:00:01 bash

EDIT: You'll also see that you can do it for your reply also:

$  $ cp ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/1.mozilla-thunderbird
bash: $: command not found

Umang said: Yes, it's there to indicate that you have to enter it into a prompt. You'll find many people using that $ sign too when copy pasting terminal commands once you start using the terminal a lot.

To elaborate, it's used to distinguish terminal input from output. If you type "ps -e | grep bash" (without quotes) into the terminal, you'll want to see the output. Here's how you'd tell someone, I typed that and got this:

$ ps -e | grep bash
 2900 pts/0    00:00:01 bash

EDIT: You'll also see that you can do it for your reply also:

$  $ cp ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/1.mozilla-thunderbird
bash: $: command not found

Once I figured out the $ doesn't belong I was all set.Anyways thanks for the help...back up and running where I want to be.

nanotube said: Hi,

Well, using the approach taken by ubuntuzilla, which is to pack the original mozilla build binaries into a .deb, it is approximately impossible - since mozilla doesn't make 64bit binary releases.

If you want 64bit, you can compile it from mozilla source yourself, or use the mozilla daily builds repo.

thunderbird-stable repo still only has 3.0.5... so that one is a no-go for now.

If you are using Ubuntu 10.04 (including 64bit) you can get Thunderbird 3.1 from this repo: http://ppa.launchpad.net/eugenesan/mozilla/ubuntu Just open a console and run the following commands: Add the repo:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eugenesan/mozilla

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install thunderbird

When I tried to update the Lightning version to 1.0 I received an error saying that were not aviable in 64bit. I found here a 64 bit version http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/releases/1.0b2rc3/contrib/linux-x86_64/ Just download the .xpi and intall it in Thunderbird via Tools>Add-ons>Install

Thunderbird 3.1 is working well for me on 64-bit Lucid.

I installed Thunderbird 3.1 using the tar.bz2 file from Mozilla, not apt-get. It was quite simple:

• Copy the thunderbird tar.bz2 file to /usr/local.
• Extract the tar.bz2 file. This creates a new directory called thunderbird.
• In Preferred Applications, under Mail Reader, select Custom and set the command to /usr/local/thunderbird/thunderbird "%u". Make the same modification to the command in your task bar launcher if you have one.

Obviously, root or sudo access is required to work in /usr/local. I made things a little easier for myself by starting a root window in nautilus, like this:

sudo nautilus --no-desktop /usr/local

From the nautilus window, I opened a second tab and found my download location, then copied the tar.bz2 file to /usr/local. I right-clicked the tar.bz2 file in /usr/local and selected Extract Here.

jcoles said: Thunderbird 3.1 is working well for me on 64-bit Lucid.

I installed Thunderbird 3.1 using the tar.bz2 file from Mozilla, not apt-get. It was quite simple:

• Copy the thunderbird tar.bz2 file to /usr/local.
• Extract the tar.bz2 file. This creates a new directory called thunderbird.
• In Preferred Applications, under Mail Reader, select Custom and set the command to /usr/local/thunderbird/thunderbird "%u". Make the same modification to the command in your task bar launcher if you have one.

Obviously, root or sudo access is required to work in /usr/local. I made things a little easier for myself by starting a root window in nautilus, like this:

sudo nautilus --no-desktop /usr/local

From the nautilus window, I opened a second tab and found my download location, then copied the tar.bz2 file to /usr/local. I right-clicked the tar.bz2 file in /usr/local and selected Extract Here. That's more or less what Ubuntuzilla does.

Umang said: That's more or less what Ubuntuzilla does.

just not for 64bit systems ;)

When will I ever remember to remember that? :p

Umang said: When will I ever remember to remember that? :p

hehe hopefully mozilla will start releasing 64bit binaries soon, and then you won't have to anymore ;)

iirc, ff4 is supposed to be when they start making 64bit releases... we'll see...

What is the function of the config setting mail.strict_threading when set to True? Does it enable threading by subject line, or disable it?

I ask, because I have several emails not threading correctly: http://www.4shared.com/photo/fOmeuJfW/Screenshot.html , no matter what the config settings say.

abumaia said: What is the function of the config setting mail.strict_threading when set to True? Does it enable threading by subject line, or disable it?

I ask, because I have several emails not threading correctly: http://www.4shared.com/photo/fOmeuJfW/Screenshot.html , no matter what the config settings say.

Hi, a quick google reveals the following: https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Message_Threading#mail.strict_threading

summary: if you want to thread by subject, set it to false.

That was my initial interpretation of that page as well, however if you look at the other image I have up on that site with my screenshot, that is how I have TB set up, and yet I still get those replies as different threads than the original emails. I've set those settings every which way I can think of, to no avail. I don't know what's wrong with this thing.

abumaia said: That was my initial interpretation of that page as well, however if you look at the other image I have up on that site with my screenshot, that is how I have TB set up, and yet I still get those replies as different threads than the original emails. I've set those settings every which way I can think of, to no avail. I don't know what's wrong with this thing.

hmm... well, a better forum to ask your question would be on the mozilla forums (or the general support forum section here on ubuntuforums). i don't use threading in tb myself, so not familiar with the details...

jcoles said: Thunderbird 3.1 is working well for me on 64-bit Lucid.

I installed Thunderbird 3.1 using the tar.bz2 file from Mozilla, not apt-get. It was quite simple:

• Copy the thunderbird tar.bz2 file to /usr/local.
• Extract the tar.bz2 file. This creates a new directory called thunderbird.
• In Preferred Applications, under Mail Reader, select Custom and set the command to /usr/local/thunderbird/thunderbird "%u". Make the same modification to the command in your task bar launcher if you have one.

Obviously, root or sudo access is required to work in /usr/local. I made things a little easier for myself by starting a root window in nautilus, like this:

sudo nautilus --no-desktop /usr/local

From the nautilus window, I opened a second tab and found my download location, then copied the tar.bz2 file to /usr/local. I right-clicked the tar.bz2 file in /usr/local and selected Extract Here.

I installed this basically the same way, but I always put extra apps in /opt. Works great for me.

Shane

I had Lightning running under Thunderbird before, but I had to do a complete re-install of ubuntu (long story, don't ask for now) and when I re-installed Thunderbird and tried to install Lightning, well...apparently the version of Lightning I got only works with TB 3.1 which is not officially available and the version I have -- after an update this morning -- is 3.06, and well, ....I'm sure you all know that or could at least guess.

I would love to get Lightning back on my system but do to that I need to install TB 3.1. So my question is: Is it safe to install it? I don't have the free time to go in and make countless back ups and then remove 3.1 and re-install 3.06 and set everything back up again.....Can I install 3.1 -- using the methods I've seen here -- on ubuntu 10.04 with no worries?

One extra step that I did was to zip/tar my .thunderbird directory. This will only take about 5 min and is a step worth taking. You can do this with GUI pretty easy.

1. Close Thunderbird Go to Places -> Home and then hit 'ctrl-h' which will show the hidden folders. Or View show hidden folders.

1. Then find the .thunderbird folder right click on the folder and select compress, pick a name and how you want it compressed, and wait for it to finish.

Note: If you don't remove the . in front of thunderbird, your backup will be a hidden file.

Note: If the .thunderbird file has a little arrow on the folder, then look for the .mozilla-thunderbird folder. The little arrow means that it is a link (shortcut) and not the actual folder.

Now TB is backed up, and you are ready to remove TB3.06 and install TB3.1 if anything goes wrong, reinstall 3.06 and remove the .thunderbird folder and unzip your backup to the original location.

I installed TB3.1 yesterday, and seems to work fine. I even took the liberty to install a few other extensions. Seems to work like a charm.

Shane

Here's another question: Is everything automatically imported into 3.1? Assuming everything goes smoothly, will all my mails, accounts, and contacts be there waiting for me in 3.1 or will I have to import everything? I have some important mails for work in my local folders in TB 3.06 that I would not want to lose. I know I could back them up and import them, but as I said before, I am quite swamped with things to do and don't really have the time to sit here setting things up. I would only want to go to 3.1 if the upgrade were seamless. I don't need Lightning THAT badly.

wenfuli said: Here's another question: Is everything automatically imported into 3.1? Assuming everything goes smoothly, will all my mails, accounts, and contacts be there waiting for me in 3.1 or will I have to import everything? I have some important mails for work in my local folders in TB 3.06 that I would not want to lose. I know I could back them up and import them, but as I said before, I am quite swamped with things to do and don't really have the time to sit here setting things up. I would only want to go to 3.1 if the upgrade were seamless. I don't need Lightning THAT badly.

I was using thunderbird before with the TB from the repos, and some update happened and broke thunderbird. After a few weeks without it, I finally got around to upgrading. When I upgraded everything imported fine, and worked. The only problem that I have heard of is the extensions sometimes give you hassles. In my case it told me what didn't work with 3.1 and looked for updates. So yes it should import everything fine.

Shane

PS - Do your backup in case it doesn't. :)

Is there any update on having TB in the repos? Just curious as I'm rather happy enough with Evolution. :popcorn:

Just installed TB 3.1 as per JuanT's directions and everything seems to be working fine. I've got Lightning back now, and all my mail and settings imported fine. Looks good.

Now to see if I can get my calendars synced between my Mac and Linux machines. But that's probably a topic for another thread, if not another forum entirely.

Chuck

Umang said: Hi all,

The issue, as discussed on the enigmail forums is because of some permissions issue cause by the ~/.thunderbird -> ~/.mozilla-thunderbird symlink. Running the following commands should help:

 $ cp ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/1.mozilla-thunderbird
 $ unlink ~/.thunderbird
 $ mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/.thunderbird

The first command gives the response:

 $ cp ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/1.mozilla-thunderbird
cp: omitting directory `~/.mozilla-thunderbird'

which is fixed by using cp -r but then the second command gives me this:

 $ unlink ~/.thunderbird
unlink: cannot unlink `~/.thunderbird': Is a directory

What am I missing?

jxkauffold said: The first command gives the response:

 $ cp ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/1.mozilla-thunderbird
cp: omitting directory `~/.mozilla-thunderbird'

which is fixed by using cp -r but then the second command gives me this:

 $ unlink ~/.thunderbird
unlink: cannot unlink `~/.thunderbird': Is a directory

What am I missing?

you're missing the fact that you don't need to do any of this if your .thunderbird is the actual directory with your mail, rather than a symlink to ~/.mozilla-thunderbird. :)

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