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There are new Gnome3 packages in official Oneiric repos now. ATM these GTK+2 versions have been upgraded to GTK+3 versions:
and zenity-common (3.0.0-1)
and liblaunchpad-integration-3.0-1 (0.1.51)
nautilus 1:3.0.1.1-0ubuntu1 gnome-disk-utility 3.0.0-1ubuntu1
Fully updated now re-booted and working.
I still don't see all this new updates.. I got only baobab, screenshot-tool and search-tool updated to v3. C'mon servers! :)
edit: I should have waited some other mins.. arrived!
just updated and rebooted and it now looks horrible.
also the picture of all windows etc are staying on the screen after closing the app.
terry_gardener said: just updated and rebooted and it now looks horrible.
Gtk murrine engine has not been ported yet to gtk3.. so it is normal.
Probably we'll see a new engine (called Unico if I remember correctly) during OO dev cycle and a new Ambiance theme.
lucazade said: Gtk murrine engine has not been ported yet to gtk3.. so it is normal.
Probably we'll see a new engine (called Unico if I remember correctly) during OO dev cycle and a new Ambiance theme.
thanks for the info
Sounds like we'll have some high crash potential during the next few weeks. Going into selective update mode... :D
terry_gardener said: thanks for the info
To be more precise there is another issue at the moment that blocks gnome-settings-deamon to start:
$ gnome-settings-daemon
** (gnome-settings-daemon:1728): WARNING **: Ignoring unknown module 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.gconf'
** (gnome-settings-daemon:1728): WARNING **: You can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting
** (gnome-settings-daemon:1728): WARNING **: Unable to start xsettings manager: Could not initialize xsettings manager.
** (gnome-settings-daemon:1728): WARNING **: Name taken or bus went away - shutting down
Segmentation faultSo also gtk2 apps atm doesn't follow theme and user settings.
This is the blueprint of the migration to Gtk3 stack: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-gtk3-gnome3
lucazade said: To be more precise there is another issue at the moment that blocks gnome-settings-deamon to start:[]("https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-gtk3-gnome3")
I get something different to that.
[COLOR=DarkGreen][I]jmb@ubuntu:~$ killall gnome-settings-daemon jmb@ubuntu:~$ gnome-settings-daemon & [2] 19148 [1] Segmentation fault gnome-settings-daemon jmb@ubuntu:~$ (gnome-settings-daemon:19148): WARNING : Ignoring unknown module 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.gconf' jmb@ubuntu:~$ [1305644196,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/] The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the application[/I][/COLOR]
Which version of gnome-settings-daemon are you talking about? There's a new version 3.0.1-1ubuntu1 just uploaded.
Seems to be looking better now?
I get that terrible theme named "Simple" too, and yes it is due to the fact that gnome-settings-daemon does not start properly.
Then, I do not hear login sound nor any other event sounds any more. That was after I upgraded gnome-desktop-settings, it pulled in libcanberra-gtk3. Gnome-session-canberra does not work with that.
Thats funny, I installed gNatty and it has Gnome3, Ubuntu Classic and Unity (Ubuntu) and No system sounds on all three but has sound in games and in Firefox ???
https://launchpadlibrarian.net/68342600/gnome-themes-standard_3.0.0.orig.tar.gz
For those who need a decent desktop during our gtk transition, here is a link to Adwaita, the g-shell default theme. Just drag the Adwaita folder to the gnome-appareance-properties window.
I'm getting this when trying to install that theme:
"gnome-themes-standard-3.0.0" does not appear to be a valid theme. It may be a theme engine which you need to compile.
Thanks Framli.
MacUntu said: I'm getting this when trying to install that theme:
It's just the Adwaita folder, not the full .tar.gz, but I'm getting this:
"This theme will not look as intended because the required window manager theme 'Adwaita' is not installed.", even after installing gnome-themes-standard (3.0.0-2) through synaptic…
Yes, same message for me, but session is still getting themed.
Oh thanks, now it says "Correctly installed". *facepalm*
Framli said: Yes, same message for me, but session is still getting themed.
Hmm, okay then, I get something like that (my window buttons are on the right instead of being on the left side :-?).
How is your desktop? I'm getting this when everything is minimized:
afv said: How is your desktop? I'm getting this when everything is minimized:
yes i am getting the same thing
Ditto. Maybe because desktop drawing is disabled by default (maybe I'm mixing something up, but I remember reading something like that)?
Unfortunately there's no dconf-editor without uninstalling dconf atm. :D
MacUntu said: Ditto. Maybe because desktop drawing is disabled by default (maybe I'm mixing something up, but I remember reading something like that)?
Unfortunately there's no dconf-editor without uninstalling dconf atm. :D
Go the same problem too. Maybe with Intel cards only?????
I had the same problem a few hours ago, but...
Since I have installed gnome-themes and gnome-themes-standard => my desktop is now the nice blue g-shell wallpaper. :o
Vrroom said: Go the same problem too. Maybe with Intel cards only?????
Looks like that. I'm not getting a desktop with Intel, but it works fine with Nouveau on the same machine.
Framli said: I had the same problem a few hours ago, but...
Since I have installed gnome-themes and gnome-themes-standard => my desktop is now the nice blue g-shell wallpaper. :o
Confirmed (but not the 'nice' part :P).
Framli said: Since I have installed gnome-themes and gnome-themes-standard => my desktop is now the nice blue g-shell wallpaper. :o
I changed mine with:
GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri "file:///usr/share/backgrounds/gnome/FootFall.png"
Framli said: I had the same problem a few hours ago, but...
Since I have installed gnome-themes and gnome-themes-standard => my desktop is now the nice blue g-shell wallpaper. :o
I installed both the packages and my desktop is still messed up. I can select Adwaita theme from System Settings but there are rendering glitches and window trails on my desktop :(
My desktop is now OK (without icons). Just went to dconf-editor, org/gnome/desktop/background and clicked "Set to Default" on all the options. The picture-uri changed from something like /usr/share/themes/.. to file:///usr/share/themes/Adwaita/backgrounds/stripes.jpg :)
My gnome2 panel seems to have lost its colouring/bloat/theme. It appears to run alot faster now. 'About Gnome' says that it's version 2.32.1.
I'm wondering if everything will be done in a 6 month period, because there are such massive changes going on over the next few months. Gnome3 integration and a new Unity.
My desktop is wonderful today ;-)
[IMG]http://novatillasku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pantallazo-41.png[/IMG]
novatillasku said: My desktop is wonderful today ;-)
[IMG]http://novatillasku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pantallazo-41.png[/IMG]
Yea RIGHT !!! :(
Looks just like mine, it WILL get better, I hope :)
cecilpierce said: Yea RIGHT !!! :(
Looks just like mine, it WILL get better, I hope :)
It will at least change, if you install gnome-themes-standard. I got the gnome3 default background that way. Then again, I'm still using gnome-panel session.
You need to enable nautilus drawing the desktop again to get rid of the weird ghost drawing happening on the desktop now.``` gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true
My desktop (classic mode) is alot less glamorous:
By installing the Atolm GTK3 theme, I can get the classic desktop looking half decent. Sort of.....
[IMG]http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/5659/0519001.png[/IMG]
I upgraded by, ahem, accident.
The best combination to get a decent looking desktop is to combine Adwaita gtk-3.0 dark variant from git with Ambiance gtk-2.0. Just get Adwaita from git, and copy Ambiance gtk-2.0 folder into Adwaita gtk-2.0 dir.
Also, they have new blue icons which look nice.
The easy way around for now is to change the theme in dconf from Adwaita to the one you prefer.
For Ambiance just change Adwaita to Ambiance with
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme 'Ambiance'Nautilus though and its right-click menu is depending on gtk-themes-standard settings.
works nicely enough
your desktop is nicely ... on mine, i have no desktop icons (its only blue stripes) it thinks that genview is the default Folder opener (it should be nautilus) and after i deleted it, it opens with konqueror my progamms only in kde-bluewhite j can not change the appirance in process i have a kded4, but on service it says that gdm is runnng and not kdm .. i must do something very wrong right? :(
The most close you can get to Ambiance by having this GTK3 theme --> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Adwance-gtk3?content=141925
Heh, how did you change the theme for the controls?
Also, neither does that look like my notebook screen nor like my CRT monitor! :D
[[img]http://img.xrmb2.net/166788.jpg[/img]](http://img.xrmb2.net/images/166788.png)
MacUntu said: Heh, how did you change the theme for the controls?
Does this work?
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme 'Adwaita'I did some hackery to get the gnome-tweak-tool working, but that may be a bit excessive. It should work by default once a build of gnome shell and it's dependancies hits the repo's anyway.
Adwaita works, but not Ambiance/Radiance (like in Framli's screenshot).
Did you install this theme and try switching to that?
Vrroom said: The most close you can get to Ambiance by having this GTK3 theme --> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Adwance-gtk3?content=141925
Ambiance GTK3 is a work in progress, here is a quick tutorial to test it. http://imagebin.org/154232 [B]The Unico theme engine, the one Oneiric is going to have by default, is not finished at all. It breaks some stuff, like opening panels in gnome-control-center.[/B]
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gtk3-engines-unico or https://launchpad.net/unico (you can try the trunk bzr branch, it builds without problems)
bzr branch lp:~lucazade/+junk/ambiance-gtk3 The contained gtk-3.0 dir needs to go in /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/
org>gnome>desktop>interface>gtk-theme>"Ambiance"
Awesome, thanks! :-)
Hi Guys, just to clarify--Ubuntu OO will have Gnome 3 with Shell in its repo, and as an alternative to Unity desktop? This is great news...or did I miss the announcement?
shuttleworthwannabe said: Hi Guys, just to clarify--Ubuntu OO will have Gnome 3 with Shell in its repo, and as an alternative to Unity desktop? This is great news...or did I miss the announcement?
Most likely. It will be based on gnome 3 so having the shell installable in the repo will be rather trivial.
Framli said: Ambiance GTK3 is a work in progress, here is a quick tutorial to test it. http://imagebin.org/154232
[B]The Unico theme engine, the one Oneiric is going to have by default, is not finished at all. It breaks some stuff, like opening panels in gnome-control-center.[/B]
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gtk3-engines-unico or https://launchpad.net/unico (you can try the trunk bzr branch, it builds without problems)
bzr branch lp:~lucazade/+junk/ambiance-gtk3 The contained gtk-3.0 dir needs to go in /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/
org>gnome>desktop>interface>gtk-theme>"Ambiance"
:) I'm wondering who is this lucazade! I'd like to point out that theme is in a early stage of development and porting (read 2 days of work), so I'd expect in a few time to be at least pixel-perfect with Ambiance gtk2 based and if possible better ;)
hm ok, but i found no reason why my gnome looks like kde -.-
hm, dont have adwaita nor ambiance installed, only light-themes, and i get the same choices seen in #42 above, everything is working fine.
I noticed that the appmenu no longer works. Is this due to installing the Unico theme engine?
lucazade said: :) I'm wondering who is this lucazade!
I'd like to point out that theme is in a early stage of development and porting (read 2 days of work), so I'd expect in a few time to be at least pixel-perfect with Ambiance gtk2 based and if possible better ;)
\\:D/
Do you know if someone is working on porting Radiance as well?
MacUntu, the status menus and app menu (indicators) haven't been ported to GTK 3 yet so you won't see the appmenu working with GTK3 apps. That's one example of how the Gnome 3 PPA breaks Ubuntu's look and feel. Of course, it's being worked on and it will be fixed soon.
Thanks, wasn't sure what exactly broke them as I did so many updates at once.
MacUntu said:
Do you know if someone is working on porting Radiance as well?
No, I don't think anyone is working on it.. maybe it is better to ask to Cimi in #murrine channel, I don't know what are the plans.
i have many problems and i does not know why:
i can not change the desktop background, and there are no icons on the desktop, and i cant even open the context menu of the deskop
other question: why cant i open the nautilus from menu? the LocationsFolder opens gwenview and if i deinstall it it prever Konqueror ... and this on GDM!!
Hanmac said: i have many problems and i does not know why:
i can not change the desktop background, and there are no icons on the desktop, and i cant even open the context menu of the deskop
other question: why cant i open the nautilus from menu? the LocationsFolder opens gwenview and if i deinstall it it prever Konqueror ... and this on GDM!! Install gnome-tweak-tool and enable the option for having the file manager handle the desktop.
hm it is installed buf failed to start with: GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.clock' is not installed
Oh, right... I had to add that GNOME 3 PPA for Natty and use those versions of the various packages that haven't made it into Oneiric yet. Forgot about that.
hm i get the gnome-shell from the ppa and aktivate the option now the icons are back, but the background is not changeable
I install "Adwaita-drakefire" and try my prefer wallpaper, but icons don't work.
[IMG]http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/sku5/ONEIRIC/Pantallazo-1.png[/IMG]
novatillasku said:
I install "Adwaita-drakefire" and try my prefer wallpaper, but icons don't work.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/sku5/ONEIRIC/Pantallazo-1.png
Try:
$ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true
Thank's!
HM!! i can not change the background with the menu and appierance but it work with gstettings ... *i am confused* ok problem solved ... i forget to update gnome-control-center, i does not do it before, bacause it deletes a package names capplet-data .. i did not know it was part of gnome-control-center
Was gnome-appearance-properties removed/deprecated?
$ gnome-appearance-properties The program 'gnome-appearance-properties' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center
$ apt-cache policy gnome-control-center gnome-control-center: Installed: 1:3.0.1.1-1ubuntu1
I can't find anything about it on the changelogs:
Yeah, gnome-control-center is pretty much a single unified binary now with most of the functionality of the GNOME 2 version gone.
Gnome 3 is one bitter pill after the other.
hugmenot said: Gnome 3 is one bitter pill after the other.
Gnome 3.2 will be the water.
to wash the bitter pill down ? or drown in ?
CreativeReach said: Gnome 3.2 will be the water.
Salt water? :P
Later, Seeker
seeker5528 said: Salt water? :P
Later, Seeker
No just to help those pills go down.
We have a lot of Gnome3 packages in Oneiric official repos now. These are still missing:
Those, who want to have gnome-panel3 now (not yet in Oneiric repos), may go and download it from here (experimental):
https://launchpad.net/~jbicha/+archive/ppa
Just be sure to install gnome-session-fallback too.
Harry33 said: Those, who want to have gnome-panel3 now (not yet in Oneiric repos),
may go and download it from here (experimental):
https://launchpad.net/~jbicha/+archive/ppa
Just be sure to install gnome-session-fallback too.
Does that work usably in the fallback or any other session?
JMB74 said: Does that work usably in the fallback or any other session?
It works only with gnome-session-fallback.
That PPA is horribly broken... you'd have much better luck just pulling it from git yourself and installing it to /usr/local.
TerminX said: That PPA is horribly broken... you'd have much better luck just pulling it from git yourself and installing it to /usr/local.
That's the sort of thing I was concerned about.
At the moment I have the old gtk2 panel working fine with at least one session, so I don't want to lose that until there is a reliable panel to replace it.
TerminX said: Yeah, gnome-control-center is pretty much a single unified binary now with most of the functionality of the GNOME 2 version gone.
No kidding. I would hope that functionality will creep back in over time, but seeing that the Control Center in Fedora 15 pretty much resembles this "new and improved" version in OO, I'd say that such hope would be foolish.
Definitely a bitter pill, this Gnome 3.
TerminX said: That PPA is horribly broken... you'd have much better luck just pulling it from git yourself and installing it to /usr/local.
Have you installed the package gnome-panel (3.0.0.1-2ubuntu1) into Oneiric setup with Gnome3 PPA fully integrated? What issues did you find?
Yeah, I have to admit I'd be pretty unimpressed and quite possibly even upset over GNOME 3 if I was some kind of hardcore GNOME 2 user. The past few months I've been using AWN with the Cardapio and Dockbar X applets instead of the panel so I haven't been terribly affected by the massive changes, but that didn't stop me from noticing how the control center has been completely raped.
Considering they removed such basic options as changing the fonts and GTK theme (yes, I'm aware of gnome-tweak-tool but it's not an official part of the control center) I'm surprised they didn't go a step further obliterate the preferences that control that kind of stuff under the hood altogether.
The fact that so many options are now hidden away from the typical end user yet still perfectly functional behind the scenes seems to indicate a disconnect between the people actually programming the stuff and the people making the UI design decisions. If a bunch of preferences are clearly still useful enough to maintain all of the supporting code, why aren't they important enough to present to the end user anymore?
Harry33 said: Have you installed the package gnome-panel (3.0.0.1-2ubuntu1) into Oneiric setup with Gnome3 PPA fully integrated?
What issues did you find? The panel segfaulted like mad for me. No such issues when I pulled it from git and built it myself.
I got Ubuntu looking normal through the Adwance theme. Unity seems to be as theme-able as the version in Natty (as in, the window buttons don't change to reflect your current theme) but I'm expecting that to change later on, as the shift to G3 shouldn't be as big as the Compiz rewrite.
TerminX said:
The panel segfaulted like mad for me. No such issues when I pulled it from git and built it myself.
Right, that means I am going to wait until the Gnome-panel3 finds its way into Oneiric repos. Thanks.
lucazade, any chance at an Ambiance for the GNOME-Shell?
I'd like to be able to use Unity and GNOME-Shell on the same machine without having to switch my themes (gtk, window manager, etc) each time I switch my DE.
Starks said: lucazade, any chance at an Ambiance for the GNOME-Shell?
I'd like to be able to use Unity and GNOME-Shell on the same machine without having to switch my themes (gtk, window manager, etc) each time I switch my DE.
Starks don't know at the moment.. Unfortunately gnome-shell doesn't start here in virtualbox (haven't investigated too much about this so maybe my fault) so had no chanche to try it on OO.
In the meanwhile this theme for the shell could be good: http://half-left.deviantart.com/art/GNOME-Shell-Ubuntu-Ambience-210264151 give it a try
Starks: Ubuntu Ambiance Gnome Shell theme:
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/ubuntu-ambiance-gnome-shell-theme.html
i have that. doesn't really cooperate well with everything else even if i set everything to ambiance.
there's no ambiance window manager theme aside from adwance.
lucazade said: Starks don't know at the moment..
Unfortunately gnome-shell doesn't start here in virtualbox (haven't investigated too much about this so maybe my fault) so had no chanche to try it on OO.
In the meanwhile this theme for the shell could be good: http://half-left.deviantart.com/art/GNOME-Shell-Ubuntu-Ambience-210264151 give it a try
VirtualBox needs to be at version 4.0.8 _with Guest Additions installed_ to run GS.
IanW said: VirtualBox needs to be at version 4.0.8 _with Guest Additions installed_ to run GS.
i'm using both additions 4.0.8 and 3d enabled but i'm stuck with a blank gnome-shell session. :/
Maybe GS hates your VirtualBox. Under Fedora 15 I could only get the GNOME "Classic" session (with only one panel) even after installing the guest additions and enabling 3D acceleration (no, forced fallback mode wasn't on,) but under Oneiric it works just fine :|
Quadunit404 said: Maybe GS hates your VirtualBox
Aahah.. yes, it probably hates my vbox.. anyway not a great issue, i'm not in a hurry to try it :)
TerminX said: Yeah, I have to admit I'd be pretty unimpressed and quite possibly even upset over GNOME 3 if I was some kind of hardcore GNOME 2 user. The past few months I've been using AWN with the Cardapio and Dockbar X applets instead of the panel so I haven't been terribly affected by the massive changes, but that didn't stop me from noticing how the control center has been completely raped.
Considering they removed such basic options as changing the fonts and GTK theme (yes, I'm aware of gnome-tweak-tool but it's not an official part of the control center) I'm surprised they didn't go a step further obliterate the preferences that control that kind of stuff under the hood altogether.
The fact that so many options are now hidden away from the typical end user yet still perfectly functional behind the scenes seems to indicate a disconnect between the people actually programming the stuff and the people making the UI design decisions. If a bunch of preferences are clearly still useful enough to maintain all of the supporting code, why aren't they important enough to present to the end user anymore?
The panel segfaulted like mad for me. No such issues when I pulled it from git and built it myself.
Gnome tweak isn't an "official part of the control center" but it is an officially maintained program. I expect we'll start to see most gnome 3 distros include it by default. Perhaps they should have kept the font settings in the control center, but I have no problem with them moving advanced settings to the tweak tool. Its just as easy for me to change fonts and such as it was before.