just looking for something to mess around with. can anyone recommend a rolling release debian based linux distro. any flavor fine. tks
rolling release debian based os
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Linux Mint Debian Edition may be what you're after.
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If you mean rolling as in "Doesn't have distinct releases, but is just constantly upgraded over time", then try SolydXK. I've been playing with it lately, and it's pretty solid. They do quarterly update packs to keep it fresh, and the "home" edition is based on Debian Testing.
Now, if you mean rolling as in "Always gets the latest software as it becomes available", a la Arch, that doesn't exist in Debian due to the way Debian's repositories work. Closest you can get is to run Sid with the experimental repository enabled. There always seems to be at least one Sid-based distro around, but I don't know what the current ones are.
How 'bout Debian Sid?
I am on what I think will be a Ubuntu rolling development release. It is trusty tahr with the repositories renamed from trusty to devel with this command.
sudo sed -i 's/trusty/devel/g' /ect/apt/sources.listNow I wait to see if daily updates will roll this installation from Trusty Tahr development to <Uname> development. I think that this is the closest we are going to get to a Ubuntu rolling release.
I do get some errors when I update because some of the usual repositories do not exist as devel repositories. If using software Updater never accept the offer to run a partial upgrade. Always click continue and the update will take place as normal. This is what I see when I run the update using apt-get
Err http://extras.ubuntu.com devel/main Sources
404 Not Found Hit http://security.ubuntu.com devel-security/main Sources Err http://extras.ubuntu.com devel/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found Err http://extras.ubuntu.com devel/main i386 Packages 404 Not Found
W: Conflicting distribution: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com devel Release (expected devel but got trusty)
W: Conflicting distribution: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com devel-updates Release (expected devel-updates but got trusty) W: Conflicting distribution: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com devel-backports Release (expected devel-backports but got trusty) W: Conflicting distribution: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com devel-proposed Release (expected devel-proposed but got trusty) W: Conflicting distribution: http://security.ubuntu.com devel-security Release (expected devel-security but got trusty) W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
The error messages can be ignored or we can edit the sources.list to direct apt-get to look for trusty repositories instead of the missing ones.
Regards.
SolydXK that has a great debian based Xfce & KDE version. As well as a Business and Back Office versions. The nice thing I like about Debian based is a rolling release so no more Clean installs every 6 months or borked dist-upgrades.
Been on the KDE version of SolydXK and it even comes in pretty light at 287mb to desktop and that is with all the bells & whistles. And Xfce is even lighter. Been doing updates based on Testing branch since Aug 2013 with zero issues and zero need to do a complete reinstall. And SolydXK does quarterly with next one on Apr. 15th. Which is based on Testing branch and end up with pretty fresh kernel desktop and apps. Steam,PlayonLinux and Codecs installed by default.
Linux Action Show just did a review on it giving it thumbs up.
So for me it's near perfect fit for me. Take a look may be what you need? If not good luck as sure you will find what fits your needs. .
@grahammechanical: recently, Mark Shuttleworth did mention that once convergence took place (probably by 14.10 or no later then 15.04)...that they would consider replacing the 6 month releases with a sort of semi-rolling release...a stable ubuntu core that would get newer apps, and i guess kernels when they are stable and ready for release...much in the same way that say, an android device gets updated versions of stuff automatically...
Of course...he has said things like this before...though this time he sounded a bit more serious about it... ;)
Probably the easiest way is to install Solydxk and change sources directly to Debian Testing or to Sid/Unstable if you want to live a bit more dangerously. Or you could grab a snapshot of Debian Testing from Debian and run that or distribution-upgrade it to Sid.
SolydXK is a rolling release and it seems to be solid.
lykwydchykyn said: If you mean rolling as in "Doesn't have distinct releases, but is just constantly upgraded over time", then try SolydXK. I've been playing with it lately, and it's pretty solid. They do quarterly update packs to keep it fresh, and the "home" edition is based on Debian Testing.
And also @ Sammiev :
Any idea if Flgrx can be used with SolydXK ? Debian Jessie/Testing doesn't have a Fglrx client. My laptop overheats without one and also screen resolution is a problem.
OP, I am trying out KaOS ( http://kaosx.us ) and it is holding up pretty good. But it is a pure Qt environment, though some GTK stuff can be added.
By the way, this is where he said it: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/ubuntu-touch-plans-2014
Would sure love to see an ubuntu that you didn't have to re-install or upgrade to every 6 months...but who knows if they will really do it...i can dream, can't i? ;) :D
bhattabhishek said:
Any idea if Flgrx can be used with SolydXK ? Debian Jessie/Testing doesn't have a Fglrx client. My laptop overheats without one and also screen resolution is a problem.
OP, I am trying out KaOS ( http://kaosx.us ) and it is holding up pretty good. But it is a pure Qt environment, though some GTK stuff can be added.
Unless you need a few extra fps and higher versions of OpenGL for gaming I would rather use the open driver. With fglrx the next kernel update may leave you with a broken display, also amd support for your card may expire before your next OS upgrade if it happens to be an older card.
If you use a recent enough kernel (3.11+?) and a supported card you may try to enable dynamic power management and see if it helps with your overheating.
Open /etc/default/grub and change the line
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash "
to
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.dpm=1"
then update grub and reboot.
It works well on this hp netbook I have just installed Ubuntu on. Runs for hours playing videos and what not and still remains cool. It also turns off the fan when not needed (before enabling dpm it was blowing non stop even when idle)
On the other hand I can't even install fglrx on this machine (OS ubunti 13.10, gpu AMD hd 6310), tried the package suggested by additional driver, then the other ones, and xorg-edgers, always booted into black screen. I could try to trounle shoot it or install the .run file from AMD but I couldn't even be bothered. I installed the latest open driver from the oibaf ppa, it works nicely and I even get vdpau for video decoding. From what I read the open driver is actually smoother than fglrx for most 'normal' desktop usage.
tks all for the suggestions appreciate it
monkeybrain20122 said: Unless you need a few extra fps and higher versions of OpenGL for gaming I would rather use the open driver. With fglrx the next kernel update may leave you with a broken display, also amd support for your card may expire before your next OS upgrade if it happens to be an older card.
If you use a recent enough kernel (3.11+?) and a supported card you may try to enable dynamic power management and see if it helps with your overheating.
Open /etc/default/grub and change the line
to
then update grub and reboot.
It works well on this hp netbook I have just installed Ubuntu( I am running Ubuntu Studio 14.04 so Kernel 3.13) on. Runs for hours playing videos and what not and still remains cool. It also turns off the fan when not needed (before enabling dpm it was blowing non stop even when idle)
On the other hand I can't even install fglrx on this machine (OS ubunti 13.10, gpu AMD hd 6310), tried the package suggested by additional driver, then the other ones, and xorg-edgers, always booted into black screen. I could try to trounle shoot it or install the .run file from AMD but I couldn't even be bothered. I installed the latest open driver from the oibaf ppa, it works nicely and I even get vdpau for video decoding. From what I read the open driver is actually smoother than fglrx for most 'normal' desktop usage.
I am aware of DPM, and yes it works great in Ubuntu( I am running Ubuntu Studio 14.04 hence Kernel 3.13), using it since the day it was posted on Webupd8 But in KaOS, it is heating up the laptop when it is being charged.
My only problems with Open Source drivers are that they heat the laptop very much ( so much that it cannot be termed a laptop, more of a table top, and yes sometimes that is a big problem) and cannot give me the best screen resolution.
My card is pretty recent HD 6480, so no leagcy support needed till date, never know when that woe turns up !
Sorry, for posting in a 'Solved' thread.
KBD47 said: .....Or you could grab a snapshot of Debian Testing from Debian and run that or distribution-upgrade it to Sid.
There's also downloading the netinstall ISO and installing Sid directly from it.