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#1

Is it at all possible for a non-expert to safely install a relevant version of Ubuntu on the Sony xperia c1905 android 4.3 phone? Will it install and run with full functionality? Is there a simple means of doing so?

Although I am not entirely new to Ubuntu, I am no expert and will need simple clear advice if at all possible.

Thank you in advance for any advice.

#2

Short answer to all the above: No. Long answer: No, because there's no port for that model -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices FYI, it was never meant to be "installed" by users.

#3

I'm pretty sure you can install linux on many rooted android phone with chroot. I've been meaning to fiddle around with this myself. Check out Lil' Debi or others or just google "chroot linux android."

#4

das280zx said: I'm pretty sure you can install linux on many rooted android phone with chroot. I've been meaning to fiddle around with this myself. Check out Lil' Debi or others or just google "chroot linux android."

True, I've did it a few times and thanks to VNC one can have almost the same control expected in a "normal" installation. But the original question was > Is it at all possible for a non-expert to safely install a relevant version of Ubuntu on the Sony xperia c1905 android 4.3 phone? So... Will you be able to teach the OP? I'm definitely NOT signing up for that task.

#5

Vladlenin5000 said: .....

So... Will you be able to teach the OP? I'm definitely NOT signing up for that task.

ha ha, very fun answer vladlenin. and as ever,you are very straight to the point. thank you kindly! i will have a little search on chroot, and lil' debi,j ust to have a little insight.

so, if ubuntu touch is not meant to be "installed" by users,then how can a user switch OS on their android? any ideas anyone?

#6

gnowair said: so, if ubuntu touch is not meant to be "installed" by users,then how can a user switch OS on their android?

any ideas anyone?

The short answer is users can't, at the moment. Who knows what the future might bring? It will always be way more complicated to "install" than in a classic x86/x86_64 desktop or laptop. ARM platforms depend on closed source and patents much more than the classic counterparts, Intel/AMD so, in order to have a functional OS on said platforms you need the manufacturer on board. And you'll need to use a lot of proprietary blobs for drivers alone.

As of today, the only Ubuntu Phone in existence is the Spanish Bq Aquaris 4.5 Ubuntu Edition. And it's an overpriced PoS for developers/enthusiasts only. No regular Android/iOS user will jump into the Ubuntu wagon anytime soon. I tested it for a couple of day and felt like going back a decade or so. It's still that rough on the edges, actually worse than Android 1.x.

All things considered, Ubuntu Phone / Ubuntu for Devices won't be ready for the masses before 2018, at best. Sorry for being so negative but it's my current opinion.

#7

no need for apologies vladlenin. again very clear researched stuff.

i am quickly learning in my own experience or reality now what i read being spoken of a few years ago concerning the future (now) of phones and mobile devices, that it would simply be part of a tightly controled dumb-down. and my experience of these devices seems to back this up.

my son, who does developement and design with an ubuntu team ardently supports the ubuntu phone, but i understand that he simply wishes it to become a viable competative alternative for the future. whereas your stance is with what we can do here and now with present devices. i've grown to really like your replies. again thank you very much.

#8

I do support Ubuntu Phone and I bought the Bq but, to be honest, it needs a lot of improvements. Its strongest point is the scopes, a paradigm changer, and those must be way more configurable than they are now. Example: I can do well without El Pais or El Jueves in my News scope - and I surely can disable both - but I can't add decent newspapers; Having BBC is nice but, like the former, limited to what you can do already in their mobile website; The BBC Android app is great and has push notifications, something the scope should have too and, if possible, system wide.

The overall design should be revamped too. The icons look just slightly better than those in Android 1.x from the past decade.

#9

There is now an updated porting guide. The original fell far behind and recently someone has done a lot of work to update it.

https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/

I do not have a mobile phone. If I had a choice between risking breaking my mobile phone with purchasing a Ubuntu BQ phone, even after reading Vladlenin5000's review, I would choose buying the phone than risk breaking a phone.

Regards.