Tonight Brunellus and Myself spoke with Jono about Regional teams, I have copied and pasted the conversation(I had to edit many of the smiley's out):
[19:50] <Brunellus> NU Ubuntu in da house, throw 'em up! [19:50] --> PriceChild has joined this channel (n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild). [19:50] * vorian_ waves to ravtux and PriceChild [19:50] <ravtux> NU Ubuntu admin X 2 [19:50] * ravtux waves to all [19:50] <pochu> ravtux: hi [19:50] <elkbuntu> hmmm.. this channel now has more users than my loco channel [19:50] <pochu> elkbuntu: hehe [19:50] <Brunellus> we just heard jono was here [19:50] <pochu> elkbuntu: what is your loco channel? [19:51] * vorian_ waves to elkbuntu [19:51] <elkbuntu> pochu, -au [19:51] <ravtux> Brunellus: now what were you saying the other night about US LoCo teams? [19:51] <pochu> elkbuntu: I can contribute to increase your channel people [19:51] <Brunellus> I was saying that the US LoCo teams are awesome, ravtux [19:51] [Whois] jono is n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono (Jono Bacon) [19:51] [Whois] jono is a user on channels: #gstreamer #ubuntu #ubuntu-devel #ubuntu-locoteams #ubuntu-mythtv #ubuntu-uk [19:51] [Whois] jono is an operator on channels: #lugradio [19:51] [Whois] jono is online via irc.freenode.net (http://freenode.net/). [19:51] [Whois] jono is an identified user. [19:51] [Whois] jono has been idle for 6 minutes and 1 second. [19:51] [Whois] jono has been online since 02/25/2007 07:50:57 PM. [19:51] [Whois] End of WHOIS list. [19:51] <elkbuntu> pochu, then it wouldnt be genuine [19:51] <Brunellus> and our regional locoteams are a great way to support new loco teams [19:51] <ravtux> Brunellus: yes the are [19:51] --> jono__ has joined this channel (n=jono@88-107-37-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com). [19:51] <Brunellus> I think I also threatened to post one copy of The Federalist on jono's blog every day until he agreed. [19:52] * Brunellus grins [19:52] <ravtux> The importance of regional LoCo teams are key to the LoCo team success in the US [19:53] <Brunellus> think of regional loco teams as the accelerant [19:53] <-- jono has left this server (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). [19:53] <ravtux> Brunellus: what does The Federalist entail? [19:53] <Brunellus> ravtux: the benefits of federalism, obviously [19:53] <Brunellus> in some places, it's brilliant. In others, it's dense. Alexander Hamilton was known for genius, if not necessarily concision. [19:53] <ravtux> Regional teams are a catalyst to LoCo team growth [19:53] <Brunellus> heh. [19:54] *** jono__ is now known as jono. [19:54] <ravtux> wait what did Alexander Hamilton say? [19:55] <-- PriceChild has left this channel ("Bye "). [19:55] <ravtux> jono: I have never talked to you, but I would like to introduce myself, Jozef [19:55] <Brunellus> jono's probably not even in front of the keyboard [19:55] * Brunellus laughs [19:55] <ravtux> lol [19:55] <jono> ravtux: hey :) [19:55] <jono> Brunellus: oi! [19:55] <jono> :P [19:55] <ravtux> jono: how goes it? [19:55] <Brunellus> ooooOOOooh. the jono SPEAKS. [19:55] <jono> ravtux: good thanks :) [19:55] <jono> Brunellus: ocassionally :P [19:56] <ravtux> Brunellus: now see what you did you woke the Jono [19:56] <jono> I am known for being quiet and retiring [19:56] <jono> :P [19:56] <jono> so hows it going folks? [19:56] <Brunellus> jono: when you're not bullying Ade on Lugradio [19:56] <ravtux> it is going good Jono [19:56] <jono> Brunellus: :) [19:57] <-- effie_jayx has left this server ("Leaving"). [19:57] <ravtux> we would like to talk to you about the importance of regional teams, specifically the NU Ubuntu Team [19:57] <Brunellus> we hear you've been hating on the whole 'regional team' concept [19:57] <jono> Brunellus: as in, town based teams? [19:57] <jono> which country? [19:58] <ravtux> In our region we have been the catalyst behind state and city LoCo team formation [19:58] <ravtux> US [19:58] <Brunellus> jono, USA. 'region' for us is multiple states [19:58] <ravtux> NU Ubuntu Team [19:58] <jono> right [19:58] <Brunellus> what's your objection [19:58] <jono> yeah I think state based teams make sense, with regional teams as part of those state teams [19:58] <ravtux> Northeastern United States Ubuntu Local Community Team [19:58] <jono> otherwise its way too granular [19:58] <Brunellus> jono: it's actually the other way around [19:58] <jono> oh right [19:58] <jono> you mean collections of states? [19:58] <Brunellus> correct jono [19:59] <jono> right [19:59] <Brunellus> within the state teams, you could subdivide, conceivably [19:59] <Brunellus> by city [19:59] <jono> I think its great to have US locos at a state level, but to have coalitions of teams as regional groups, like you say [19:59] <Brunellus> oh ok. [19:59] --> effie_jayx has joined this channel (n=valles@190.37.175.250). [19:59] <Brunellus> generally, we see the regional team as supporting the creation & activities of state teams [20:00] <ravtux> Jono so you do see the importance of Regional Teams in the overall state and city team formation? [20:00] <Brunellus> and also providing a nice excuse to have dinner and nerd out on occasion [20:00] <-- effie_jayx has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). [20:00] <jono> yes [20:00] * Brunellus tells it like it is. [20:00] <ravtux> Jono I official invite you to our next meet up [20:00] <jono> I think its great having coalitions of teams, but each team should be state level [20:00] <jono> ravtux: which meet up? [20:00] <Brunellus> jono, NU Ubuntu team [20:00] <Brunellus> come hungry [20:01] <Brunellus> ;p [20:01] <ravtux> in the DC area [20:01] <jono> cool [20:01] <jono> would love to [20:01] <jono> but I am in the UK [20:01] <jono> next time I am over there though :) [20:01] <Brunellus> I mean, DC's a long way from Wolvs [20:01] <jono> was considering a US tour of groups [20:01] * elkbuntu chuckles [20:01] <Brunellus> but, y'know. [20:01] <ravtux> that would be nice [20:01] <jono> if there is demand I could do it [20:01] <ravtux> we demand it...LOL [20:01] <Brunellus> ahaha. we could manufacture a crowd [20:01] <jono> basically, blog about it and it spurs it happening [20:02] <ravtux> we will work on getting the local LUGS involved too [20:02] <jono> cool [20:02] <Brunellus> except those beardy geezers from novalug [20:02] <jono> heh [20:02] <ravtux> DC being the capital of the US would be a great place for you to start [20:02] <ravtux> and we can help you plan your tour [20:03] <Brunellus> ravtux: we could hook him up with the NU locoteams [20:03] <Brunellus> an underground railroad of Ubuntu locoteams [20:03] <ravtux> our meet ups UUG are usually surrounded by good food, lappys and good friends [20:04] <ravtux> we have started a grass roots effort to create a Local UUG (Ubuntu Users Group) [20:04] <Brunellus> yeah we're prety awesome. [20:04] <vorian_> you guys are great! [20:05] <Brunellus> sssh, vorian_ . We'll hit ohio soon. [20:05] <Brunellus> maybe *I'll* hit ohio [20:05] <ravtux> we try to coordinate with LUGS and other Linux devs too [20:05] <yann2> is there a point in making concurrents to LUG? [20:05] <yann2> why not contribute to lugs? [20:05] <Brunellus> yann2, depends [20:06] <ravtux> Mac almost had Ian Mudock at our first meet up [20:06] <Brunellus> my Lug meets at an inconvenient time for me [20:06] <yann2> just imagine if we have SUG, MUG, .... [20:06] <yann2> not sure that's a good idea... [20:06] <ravtux> Mac = Mackenzie our other regional group admin [20:06] <Brunellus> consider UUGs as subsets of larger LUGs. [20:07] <ravtux> shes having an Oscars party tonight btw [20:07] <Brunellus> or, if Linux usergroups were a political party, consider us ubuntu guys as a caucus within that party [20:07] <ravtux> lol nice [20:07] <joe_cot> so where's this debate? all i see is invitations to dinner [20:07] <Brunellus> there was a miscommunication as to the meaning of 'regional' [20:07] <Brunellus> (I think) [20:07] <Brunellus> having fixed that [20:07] --> Vorian has joined this channel (n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian). [20:07] <Brunellus> we're going on to the important things in life [20:07] <Brunellus> dinner and ubuntu. [20:08] <Brunellus> but mostly dinner [20:08] <-- vorian_ has left this server (Nick collision from services.). [20:08] <ravtux> jono: Jono so if we can get enough demand form the US LoCo teams Canonical Ltd. will send you here? [20:09] <ravtux> Brunellus: food is very important [20:09] <Brunellus> hahaha. will canonical buy beer, too? [20:09] <jono> ravtux: yep [20:09] <Brunellus> shipit pizzas? [20:09] <ravtux> free as in free bear [20:09] <jono> thats the way it works [20:09] <jono> build a buzz, and I get sent over [20:09] <jono> :) [20:09] <ravtux> we will work on the buzz [20:09] <ravtux> Brunellus: can you start a sticky thread in the cafe? [20:09] <Vorian> We could plan something for the Ohio Linuxfest [20:10] <Vorian> its in September [20:10] <Brunellus> thta'd be modabuse [20:10] <Brunellus> ;p [20:10] <ravtux> since our team effort was instrumental in getting Jabber added to our forums [20:10] <jono> sounds good [20:10] <Brunellus> ravtux, that was mostly our whining and ryan finally getting it done. [20:11] <ravtux> Brunellus: atleast we get things done [20:11] <Brunellus> nah, that was all ryan. we whined effectively, though [20:11] <-- voidmage has left this server (Remote closed the connection). [20:11] <ravtux> Brunellus: we can start a sticky in our LoCo teams forum atleast [20:11] <Brunellus> probably. [20:12] <ravtux> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=190 [20:12] <Brunellus> although if I'm jono [20:12] <Brunellus> I'm going to hit up the argentine loco [20:12] <ravtux> why? [20:12] <Brunellus> have you ever read their forum [20:12] <Brunellus> it is occasionally *hilarious* [20:12] <Brunellus> also, I've always wanted to go to argentina. ;p [20:12] <Brunellus> sabdfl could just rocket me over [20:12] <ravtux> and miss the Shawarmas! [20:13] <ravtux> jono: our next meet up is at Max's in Silver Spring, Maryland, home of the worlds best Shawarma! [20:13] <jono> woo! sounds great [20:14] <jono> I do have a few US trips planned [20:14] <ravtux> jono: you like shawarma? [20:14] <Brunellus> I'm gonna have to put Max's to the test [20:14] <jono> but not for a while [20:14] <jono> shawarma? [20:14] <Brunellus> shawarma == arabic for kebab, if I'm not mistaken [20:15] <ravtux> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawarma [20:15] <jono> yum [20:15] <jono> looks awesome [20:15] <ravtux> (Arabic: شاورما‎; Hebrew: שווארמה‎), from the Turkish word çevirme (turning) which is another name used for döner kebab [20:15] <Brunellus> yay unicode. I read that [20:16] <ravtux> ahh [20:17] <ravtux> jono: I am glad to hear that you do in fact support Regional LoCo teams [20:17] <jono> indeed :) [20:17] <jono> but they are not teams [20:17] <jono> but coalitions [20:17] <jono> I would like them to be considered teams but instead groupings [20:17] <jono> I think it makes more sense [20:18] <ravtux> jono: it is important to point out that we are here to help State and City teams in our region to grow and coordinate [20:18] <jono> excellent [20:18] <jono> the loco project is kicking some serious *** [20:18] <ravtux> perhaps we should be called a Ubuntu ReCo Team [20:19] <ravtux> Regional Community team [20:19] <Brunellus> ravtux, so long as we're not RICO [20:19] <ravtux> RICO? [20:19] <Brunellus> RICO is the federal anti-racketeering/gang statute [20:19] <jono> heh [20:20] <jono> I think it would make sense to have a special section for team coalitions [20:20] <ravtux> Brunellus: you are the Esquire [20:20] <ravtux> jono: yes [20:20] <Vorian> : -) [20:20] <ravtux> jono: it would help on a local coordiantion level [20:20] <jono> the work going on with the US effort makes much of this worthwhile [20:20] <jono> yes indeed [20:20] <ravtux> we and LoCo teams would be much more effective if this became official [20:21] <ravtux> in a workable infrastructure way [20:21] <Vorian> what kind of infrastructure ravtux ? [20:21] <ravtux> regional>state>city [20:21] <Brunellus> infrastructure: railroads, roads, ports [20:21] <Brunellus> oh wait. [20:22] <jono> ravtux: I will make it an official thing [20:22] <ravtux> cool [20:22] <Brunellus> w00t! [20:22] <jono> I will look at it this week [20:22] * Vorian highfives jono and ravtux [20:22] <jono> I will post to loco contacts [20:22] <jono> np :) [20:22] <jono> remind me though tomorrow, my memory is **** [20:22] <Vorian> I knew you guys would get along [20:22] * Brunellus jubilates. [20:22] <ravtux> jono: I would elect Vorian to head up a midwest regional team [20:22] <Vorian> pfft! [20:22] <Brunellus> easy, ravtux [20:22] <Brunellus> let the midwesterners do it [20:22] <Vorian> Ohio's enough for me [20:22] <Brunellus> they know how to do this sort of thing [20:22] <ravtux> Vorian: ok [20:23] <Brunellus> besides, the midwest is friggin' HUGE. [20:23] <Vorian> :-) [20:23] <Brunellus> even if it is mostly corn. [20:23] <Brunellus> CornBuntu! [20:23] <ravtux> Brunellus: the best we can do is lead by example [20:23] <Vorian> /cs k Brunellus [20:23] <ravtux> Vorian: I realize your plate is full [20:23] --> Zelut has joined this channel (n=christer@ubuntu/member/zelut). [20:24] <Vorian> hi Zelut [20:24] <ravtux> Vorian: but you contribution is great [20:24] --> SubWolf has joined this channel (n=rob@69.92.38.82). [20:24] <Vorian> ravtux, you should try and coordinate with the US teams project [20:24] <Brunellus> we do have to start thinking about more substantive work we can do at the regional level though [20:24] <ravtux> yes Mac has put the final touch on her work [20:25] <jono> brb [20:25] <ravtux> She has converted 10 computers at my work to Edubuntu [20:25] <Brunellus> some of the states in our region are pretty big. NY is a huge state. VA is a huge state (in terms of extent), as is PA [20:25] <ravtux> yes and Southern Maine is a world of difference from Northern Maine [20:25] <Brunellus> ravtux, that's not really the point [20:25] <Vorian> lol [20:25] <ravtux> oh [20:25] <Brunellus> what I'm trying to think through is [20:26] <ravtux> yes? [20:26] <Brunellus> how do we get activity going through the whole region [20:26] <ravtux> If you look at the local forum [20:26] <Brunellus> I mean, around us, in the DC/noVA/MD area, it's pretty easy [20:26] <Vorian> Brunellus, thats easy [20:26] <ravtux> we have inspired many new LoCo teams [20:26] <Vorian> find leaders in each state/city [20:27] <ravtux> Maine, Massachusetts, New York, Pittsburgh, etc [20:27] <Brunellus> so I guess what we're supposed to be going is encouraging? [20:27] <ravtux> encouraging and helping set up [20:27] <Vorian> what do you mean Brunellus? [20:27] <Brunellus> If we can be a bit of a clearinghouse for loco activity in our region until the teams get big enough to be self-sustaining [20:27] <ravtux> also JD just moved to NYC [20:27] <ravtux> yes [20:27] <Brunellus> yeah. Brooklynbuntu. [20:28] <ravtux> we are here to help farm and nurture LoCo teams on the state and city level within our region [20:28] <ravtux> also to help pool our resources when needed [20:29] <ravtux> when ever we travel to any state within our region we can plan a meet up just as Jono plans to meet us here in the US [20:30] * dthacker finishes reading the backlog and says hello! [20:30] --> PriceChild has joined this channel (n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild). [20:30] <Brunellus> hello dthacker [20:31] <Brunellus> most of the backlog is my bloviating [20:31] <ravtux> blovating? [20:31] <Brunellus> bloviating. you know, like many senators do. [20:31] <Vorian> hey dthacker [20:32] <ravtux> Brunellus: I looked it up, can you please explain the term deeper? [20:32] <dthacker> The regional team concept struggles a bit in the midwest US, I think [20:32] <Brunellus> dthacker, yeah I was thinking, because of the large geographical region [20:32] <Vorian> dthacker = nebraska right? [20:32] <Brunellus> but generally, we think of the regional level as more a coordinating/encouraging thing. . . [20:32] <-- PriceChild has left this channel ("Bye "). [20:33] <dthacker> Nebraska team is an example. We are in the largest city. [20:33] <ravtux> dthacker: this is why I encourage City teams also [20:34] <ravtux> prime example is Philly and Pittsburgh [20:34] <ravtux> a user in Pittsburgh is more likely to meet in Ohio then Philly [20:34] <dthacker> We've annexed Western Iowa until Iowa group develops on their own because much of it is within a few hours drive [20:35] <ravtux> This is an important point in the US is economic sphere of influence [20:35] <Brunellus> dthacker, that's pretty much what the regional team does anyway [20:35] <ravtux> yes [20:35] <Brunellus> eventually, there are enough people in the target area to get another loco team going [20:35] <Brunellus> so it grows, and you all stay affiliated. [20:36] <ravtux> This is why a regional team can be instrumental in the State and City LoCo team development and growth [20:36] --> C3s4r has joined this channel (n=Shark@200-71-186-101.genericrev.telcel.net.ve). [20:36] <dthacker> The states I would work with are not in my region, though [20:37] <dthacker> brb must refresh my memory of Nebraska's region [20:37] <ravtux> has there been a regional team developed in your area? [20:37] <Brunellus> ravtux, there's a SW Ubuntu regional loco [20:38] <Brunellus> yay. dinnertime [20:38] <ravtux> and a Northwest regional team [20:38] <dthacker> I'm far more likely to gravitate to Denver than Ohio, but I see there is a Kansas City groupt forming and they are [20:38] <ravtux> ok guys I have to check out for Dinner [20:38] <dthacker> logical partners, distance and logistics wise [20:39] <dthacker> bye ravtux [20:39] <ravtux> bye all [20:39] <ravtux> have a great night [20:39] <Vorian> ; -) ravtux
overall the meet up went great and appears to inspired a bit of change.