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#1

Today I spoke with David Overcash (IRC nick FunnyLookingHat), team lead of the **Colorado Team**. We had a great conversation, and he said we are free to use any ideas they have on their wiki. They are starting to use their Web site more than their wiki for new users, and he also said our logo looks great, and our wiki design look cleaner and simpler. I gave an invitation for them to attend our meetings, and he was interested in attending.

Here are some parts of their wiki I found to be interesting:

[*]They listed requirements for joining the team.

[*]Conduct outreach programs. [*]Ubuntu Activism. [*]Partner with local businesses and Educational institutions to further Ubuntu.

I also have a couple ideas as well:

  • They posted the Code of Conduct.
  • Some of the things they do:
  • Calendar Feeds.
  • They have 8 User Communities, 9 Commercial.
  • There are different photos of the CO team posted.
  • Does anyone think Ubuntu certification might help us towards increasing our team, convert new people to Ubuntu, and provide better education for everyone?
  • Should there be a Spanish translation on our pages? I found this on the Austrian Teams wiki, and this could be beneficial for the Spanish-speaking individuals in our state.

Please post your thoughts on any of these ideas.

#2

First of all, make sure to bring all of this up in your report on Sunday so that the appropriate people can be assigned to do them :)

  1. I've thought of this before too. My decision has been that for the moment, we're looking for members more than we're restricting hordes of members we already have. But it might not be a bad idea --- gives us an accurate number of official 'members,' too.
  1. Sounds awesome. I'd also add a possible strong hinting to become a Launchpad Ubuntero --- i.e., agree to and PGP clearsign the code of conduct.
  1. Yep, that's all stuff I think my team's assigned to do. We're still in planning/waiting for members to finish the school year phase, so hopefully we'll get to doing this sort of thing soon.
  1. Once we have stuff to put on a calendar besides weekly meetings, seems like an awesome idea.
  1. What exactly *are* User and Commercial Communities?
  1. I presume you mean members of the actual team members? I figure we'll have an all-Arizona meet sometime to do that; I intend on at least one picture at the Tucson meeting tomorrow.

Your ideas:

  1. I like the idea of Ubuntu certification, and want to get it some day. Here's the problem: $400 and three tests to study for, one of which has training courses only in other countries, and no books on it. I think it would be useful (as would all of the Linux Professional Institute tests; they're the ones that do the Ubuntu certification), but I'm not sure who has the time and money commitment for it. My auxiliary idea somewhat linked to this was that eventually we could teach Ubuntu certification classes here in Arizona (that would probably be a Server team project or a Membership team one; either way, I'm involved :P); that's good outreach, methinks.
  1. If we can get someone to do it, that would be brilliant. We do have a lot of Spanish speakers in our state, and, not to stereotype, but many of them are in the lower income brackets that might make free software perfect. Still needs to have someone to do it, though. Bring it up, we'll see who might be up for it. :)
#3

bribri124 said: Today I spoke with David Overcash (IRC nick FunnyLookingHat), team lead of the **Colorado Team**. We had a great conversation, and he said we are free to use any ideas they have on their wiki. They are starting to use their Web site more than their wiki for new users, and he also said our logo looks great, and our wiki design look cleaner and simpler. I gave an invitation for them to attend our meetings, and he was interested in attending.

Here are some parts of their wiki I found to be interesting:

  • They listed requirements for joining the team.
  • They posted the Code of Conduct.
  • Some of the things they do:
  • Conduct outreach programs.
  • Ubuntu Activism.
  • Partner with local businesses and Educational institutions to further Ubuntu.
  • Calendar Feeds.
  • They have 8 User Communities, 9 Commercial.
  • There are different photos of the CO team posted.I also have a couple ideas as well:
  • Does anyone think Ubuntu certification might help us towards increasing our team, convert new people to Ubuntu, and provide better education for everyone?
  • Should there be a Spanish translation on our pages? I found this on the Austrian Teams wiki, and this could be beneficial for the Spanish-speaking individuals in our state.Please post your thoughts on any of these ideas.

bribri, great report. Here are my immediate thoughts.

This is not to say that we may not adopt membership rules in the future. But requirements? I don't believe we should ever place restrictions/requirements for membership to our group; unless you consider the following as the only requirement(s) (I can see at this time ): - Prospective member wants to learn more about Ubuntu and Linux in general - Prospective member agrees to abide by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct

  1. I agree with Ian, but also dis-agree. Right now we can't afford to shun away anyone who is interested in learning about, or wanting to expand knowledge of Ubuntu, and Linux in general. Ubuntu is OpenSource software. As such, I firmly believe the group should be open to the masses. Doing so will allow Ubuntu-Arizona to grow, and allow the Membership team to fulfill their charter.
  • and most importantly, wants to become part of our group and participate.
  1. Absolutely, agree with this. We should include the link to the Ubuntu Code of Conduct on all of our team pages - be they wiki, web, or forum.

The only difference may be a paralleling of the proposed outreach program - Computer Recycle & Development Team, in support of the Indian Reservations; as well as the targeted language database development for them.

  1. Seems we are paralleling them a bit. Agree with Ian on this one. Most of it would seem to encompassed by the Membership Team charter and the team's future agenda.

Additionally, members of our group may want to set up meets for their area (Phoenix, Yuma, Flagstaff, etc.). A calender would be a good place to post scheduled meetings for any group members, as well as potential members, see when/where the different local meets will be -- even if it is on our IRC channel. Also, would provide Ubuntu-US with another measurement tool for progress of Ubuntu-Arizona.

  1. Agree with Ian on this too, except one small minor difference. We have items for a calender now. Besides the weekly meeting on Sundays, we have the Tucson meet coming up as well as further meets down the road.
  1. Like Ian, I have the same question regarding this item. Could you possibly expand on this during the meeting on Sunday?
  1. Don't see why photos would not be possible at this time, regardless of when we meet as a group. Potentially, I see full a group photo is unattainable, unless someone wants to do a collage with members providing a photo for use.

Ian, do you plan on posting the photo(s) you (or someone) will be taking at the Tucson meet?

As for your Ideas.

Recommend we discuss this during a meeting, with possible focus on the creation of a Ubuntu-Arizona Linux Certification Team (Cert team). i see the focus of the team as follows:

  1. Certification: Great idea.
  • Research current/planned Ubuntu Certifications
  • availability of study guides/books
  • development of lesson plans/course material/list of possible speakers
  • gathering listing of on-line resources and posting the information
  • gathering information about and posting a listing of testing dates/locations, etc.

Agree with Ian, for the current masses we have within the group, the cost is a bit steep. But in the end, worth it for most. I see here a potential new agenda item for the Membership Team. They may need to collaborate with the potential new team in that the Membership Team may need to assist with recruiting someone to teach the group (en-mass) all course material the Cert Team develops (preferably someone who holds Certification(s) in the area they are teach to) -- As well as market training classes (if approved by the Team).

  1. Agree with you and Ian. There is a very large spanish-speaking base that needs to be reached out to; not only in Arizona, but all of the US. But, would recommend we don't just target spanish - rather we need to target those who have settled in Arizona as well, and speak other languages (e.g. native Americans) - look at it sort of as "No One Left Out" program. I am pretty sure this info can be gleaned from Census data.

I would like to propose we expand on Idea 2. In addition to adding different translation pages we should look at developing localized versions of Ubuntu for handout to the various different cultural communities we may potentially target. At the very least, would recommend we provide links on our translation pages to point where these cultural communities can obtain/download versions for their language.

Just my thoughts - be they good, or bad. None the less, very good report. :)

#4

Here is an explanation on a couple items. Maybe I could have clarified them on my initial post:

  1. Requirements for joining the team. I have seen this on a few LoCos, and they really are not as bad as it may seem. For CO, all they require is "residency in or near Colorado and a desire to see Ubuntu grow." If we choose to adapt this policy, we could expand on it somewhat. For example, for anyone who used to live or has ties to AZ. In addition, CO states for anyone interested in joining their team, to apply on their Launchpad page. I think we are basically aligned with this, but maybe we should have this in writing.
  1. User and Commercial Communities. They have local user community Web sites, as well as commercial sites. These are just links to other organizations/entities that support, at the very least, Linux within the state of CO.

I encourage anyone to visit their site. This could give you a better understanding on what they are looking to do, and it could give you different ideas on what we can do for our wiki.

#5

I can help with the Spanish translation, yo hablo espanol :)

#6

azteech said: bribri, great report. Here are my immediate thoughts.

This is not to say that we may not adopt membership rules in the future. But requirements? I don't believe we should ever place restrictions/requirements for membership to our group; unless you consider the following as the only requirement(s) (I can see at this time ): - Prospective member wants to learn more about Ubuntu and Linux in general - Prospective member agrees to abide by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct

  1. I agree with Ian, but also dis-agree. Right now we can't afford to shun away anyone who is interested in learning about, or wanting to expand knowledge of Ubuntu, and Linux in general. Ubuntu is OpenSource software. As such, I firmly believe the group should be open to the masses. Doing so will allow Ubuntu-Arizona to grow, and allow the Membership team to fulfill their charter.
  • and most importantly, wants to become part of our group and participate.

You misunderstood me. I was saying that we were at the moment a bit too small for me to think it made sense. I was thinking it might be good in the future.

azteech said:

Ian, do you plan on posting the photo(s) you (or someone) will be taking at the Tucson meet?

Yes. I'll link them here.

azteech said:

I would like to propose we expand on Idea 2. In addition to adding different translation pages we should look at developing localized versions of Ubuntu for handout to the various different cultural communities we may potentially target. At the very least, would recommend we provide links on our translation pages to point where these cultural communities can obtain/download versions for their language.

This is what Computer Recycle/Localization team is concerned with, in addition to the distribution of old computers :)