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#1

Hi, I thought I was going to share some ideas that could be useful for the beginner team. First of all I want to say that it's a great project which can be good for new users, if it gives the expected results and every new ubuntu user is happy with their system instead of spending countless of hours in figuring out how to solve problems that arrived after the switch.

The biggest problem for the beginner team is as I see that many users gets problems due to the switch that doesn't get solved and therefore wastes lots of time, just to switch back to windows. I've heard that from others, so I took a look in the Absolute beginner section in this forum to see how common it is that problem gets solved. After looking on about ten threads, I couldn't find a single thread which led to a solution.

The general characteristics of such thread is that nice people that tries to help guess for a solution, which fails 2-4 times. Many times the solution consists of some terminal lines to be Cut/Pasted(I have nothing against text-based terminal solutions, problem is when they do not work). Also sometimes the response for a problem is quite fast, sometimes not, that depends on the problem.

I have a few ideas to fix these issues.

-Users that don't get any luck in the forum can go to the chat. Especially useful if the problem is a big mystery that requires a long conersation. Right now, there's an IRC channel, but it gets more accessible for more users if there's a webchat directly within any browser.

  1. Easy accessible webchat.

-With better, I mean more reliable. That means, important software that can be big problem sources that affects the regular joe should be focused on beeing stable before it's officially released. That's because most people want their systems to just work as stable as possible, but have little or no interested in new features. There's a lot of solutions for this one, but one pretty easy thing to do is to upgrade ubuntu releases a few months after they've been released. Example: Ubuntu Feisty+ or Ubuntu Feisty complete etc etc.

  1. Better software

-People needs to understand that Linux isn't Windows. Lot's of efforts have been spent on it, but it havn't gaved as good results as we could expect. People generally needs to get some grip of what linux, opensource and Ubuntu is. It would be good if people knew the basic stuff. This would improve the quality of questions which will make it more interesting to support others. I'm not saying that ubuntu has done a bad job in this, but rather a very good job which has resulted to it's success. But there's still room for improvements.

  1. More competence for everyone

One area where many people knows the basic stuff is Global Warming. That's probably because information of it is easy to get and understand for most people. We need something like this: http://epa.gov/climatechange/kids/index.html

But instead of explaining global warming, it can explain what an OS is, the difference between linux and windows and that Ubuntu is a linux distro. It can also explain how to install applications and get further help.

#2

Sonrep has many good points. I'd like to add some thoughts.

1) In addition to the howtos that describe installation procedures it would be useful to have howtos for problem-solving that would guide the responses of forum members and raise the general level of expertise.

2) This forum is called the "Absolute Beginners" forum yet many of the questions are not for the same. Given that this is also the forum that trains the community in solving others problems (and thereby learning more themselves) we need some process of referral to other forums for more specific expertise. eg beryl-compiz questions refer to the Desktop effects and customization forum. Can the forum software have the facility to move questions to other forums as required?

3) A "blue-sky" ideal. Could the forum have a mentoring group that monitor responses and could be referred to for assistance.

4) More promotion of the solved notification!

5) 80-90% of forum questions revolve around five key areas: a) NTFS b) Compiz-fusion / Beryl c) Xorg.conf / Video drivers d) Software installation / Upgrading e) Sound problems If we implement some of Sonrep's post and the above focussing on these five areas we would address the majority of problems in this forum.

Just some ideas.

Thanks to everyone for a great forum.

#3

I think all the Videocasts and GoogleVideos out in the wild today are well manuscripted but the tutorials that I could find for Partitioning is below 640x480 resolutions. That's not acceptable if you want the tutorials to be reliable enough.

People need to see exactly what's being printed on the screen. Not just hear it from some guy talking fast. I think that would increase efficency for newbies very much.

#4

One area of feisty that has been a problem has been getting my scanner (canun n1220u) working. There are backend drivers for sane, but only in tar gz which I have found impossible to install. Every time I try, I end up hosing my system and starting all over. Funny thing, the scanner worked with dapper, but not fiesty. A more user friendly gnucash might be helpful as well..