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Open office 3.x will be included?

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#1

Open office 3.x will be included? As I will help out with packaging if need be.

#2

if OOo keeps to its release schedule then yes... the prognosis is that it will be released in september, in that case it will end up in intrepid

to ensure that, please help test the beta builds of OOo... have been running 3.0 for a few weeks now :)

#3

It should be included anyway. Firefox 3 Beta made it in.

#4

meborc said: if OOo keeps to its release schedule then yes... the prognosis is that it will be released in september, in that case it will end up in intrepid

to ensure that, please help test the beta builds of OOo... have been running 3.0 for a few weeks now :)

Good idea. I plan on setting up virtual box with 8.10 when the alpha comes out. First thing I will do is install OOo 3.0

#5

tamoneya said: Good idea. I plan on setting up virtual box with 8.10 when the alpha comes out. First thing I will do is install OOo 3.0

you can install OOo 3.0 next to 2.4 ... i have them both and i have no problems... 2.4 is opened by default when .odt file is opened... but OOo 3.0 can be launched from /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice

so no worries, try it out now ;) just be sure to use 2.4 for any important files

#6

steeleyuk said: It should be included anyway. Firefox 3 Beta made it in.

Firefox 3 beta was a huge exception, to give support for firefox 2 for hardy's lifetime would have been very difficult..

OO.o 3 should be finished by intrepid's release.

#7

Firefox 3 beta was a huge exception, to give support for firefox 2 for hardy's lifetime would have been very difficult..

It wasn't that much of an exception.

Didn't Gutsy initially come with the Release Candidate of The GIMP? OpenOffice should be at that stage even if it is delayed when Intrepid comes out.

#8

steeleyuk said: It wasn't that much of an exception.

Didn't Gutsy initially come with the Release Candidate of The GIMP? OpenOffice should be at that stage even if it is delayed when Intrepid comes out.

Gutsy wasnt a LTS release though and the web browser is the most used piece of software in a operating system.RCs are basically the exact same as final releases unless any showstopper bugs pop up.

#9

Its still development software in a release. Not that theres anything wrong with that when you take into consideration that you're going to have to support that software until the end of the support period.

and the web browser is the most used piece of software in a operating system

You could look at it the other way and say that because its the most used, it also needs to be the most stable and compatible (thinking in terms of addons/plugins).

#10

steeleyuk said: It wasn't that much of an exception.

Didn't Gutsy initially come with the Release Candidate of The GIMP? OpenOffice should be at that stage even if it is delayed when Intrepid comes out.

gutsy STILL has the rc3 version of the GIMP i'm completely mesmerised that they didn't upgrade it. oh well, we're all in hardy now anyway :)

#11

syxbit said: gutsy STILL has the rc3 version of the GIMP

according to: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gimp&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all gimp 2.4.2 got into gutsy-updates.

#12

I'm on GIMP 2.4.5 :)

#13

Gina said: I'm on GIMP 2.4.5 :)

and i'm on gimp 2.5 beta... but it doesn't matter cuz i really don't have an artistic side :(

#14

I checked the OO site and didn't see a 64bit .deb should I force the I386 .deb or dl the sources and build ?

#15

ronacc said: I checked the OO site and didn't see a 64bit .deb should I force the I386 .deb or dl the sources and build ?

You could wait, according to http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/openoffice_org_builds_for_linux they should have some 64bit builds soon(ish). Or, there are some instructions in the comments here that talk about how to force the i386 .deb.

#16

looks like it will still be a bit before the official 64bit builds show up , the link you gave said about M11 and the current is M2 . I think I'll dl the sources and local build , if that don't work I can force the I386 .deb . Thanks

#17

Closer than you think, the BEA300_m2 is a branch for their beta's. The m11 referred was their dev tree, which is currently at DEV300_m10 (release notes, build info at top). But building from source is always fun, too.

#18

I took a look at the sources and changed my mind :confused: There dosen't seem to be a master makefile and building dozens of components individualy would require more time than I can give it ( my time not the boxes ) . I'll go ahead and force the i386.deb and then puge and replace it with a 64bit when one shows up.

#19

meborc said: and i'm on gimp 2.5 beta... but it doesn't matter cuz i really don't have an artistic side :(

You hurt my eyes lol :(

#20

ronacc said: I took a look at the sources and changed my mind :confused: There dosen't seem to be a master makefile and building dozens of components individualy would require more time than I can give it ( my time not the boxes ) . I'll go ahead and force the i386.deb and then puge and replace it with a 64bit when one shows up.it takes 10 hours to compile (apparently) :)

you can just run the normal windows one under wine

#21

What are the reason as to why OOo 3.0B2 isn't available in the hardy repos yet?

#22

Because it isn't going to happen.

#23

BCurtisWX said: What are the reason as to why OOo 3.0B2 isn't available in the hardy repos yet?

That's not how things work. Updates only include security and bug fixes.

#24

ad_267 said: That's not how things work. Updates only include security and bug fixes.

whoops... i meant intrepid (hence why its in intrepid discussion). Sorry about that. :(

#25

Wine is actually the recommended method of running bleeding-edge FOSS in ubuntu. (joking)

And BTW OOo3B2 works great in wine on x64! Really snappy and it prints unlike the forced deb build.

#26

I have installed the 32 bit ooo3 on my 64 bit pc & it works fine! interestingly I had to use my Vista partition last week (I feel sooo cheap) when my Kubuntu was in lala land & installed the windows version, it had so many bugs like select save as in calc & it made ooo unresponsive but in Linux it works flawlessly:lolflag:

Cary

#27

so what's the status with including openoffice in intrepid? according to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OOo30Schedule shouldn't it already be there?

#28

From what I heard, it is not decided if it will make it at all. It seems that calc isn't happy with its current state. Just having a RC stamp on it doesn't mean that it is at release quality yet.

Thus it is planned to either make it an optional install from the universe repository or to backport it when it is considered ready...

#29

at ubuntu brainstorm all the messages i have seen from the devs says oo3 will be included in 8.10

the release date for the final 003 is october 30th

#30

stinger30au said: at ubuntu brainstorm all the messages i have seen from the devs says oo3 will be included in 8.10

the release date for the final 003 is october 30th

OOo has never been very "punctual" when it comes to deadlines ;)

#31

meborc said: OOo has never been very "punctual" when it comes to deadlines ;)

I expect RC2 to be out tomorrow. They only had 4 known bugs to fix when they missed RC2 last monday. Actually it looks like 3 are still not fixed.

#32

well i truly hope OOo3 will make it in... office suit being an important part of an OS - i understand why one would like to make an freeze exception :)

#33

stinger30au said: the release date for the final 003 is october 30th

Unfortunately for us, that is also the release date for 8.10 final. We'll probably have to wait for a backport.

#34

Ah well, if it doesn't get included I'll use the PPA. After all, it gets swifter updates. :)

#35

IanW said: Unfortunately for us, that is also the release date for 8.10 final.

We'll probably have to wait for a backport. The person is mistaken. The release date is around September 30. Release Candidate 2 was released today. So expect the final version to be out in a week or two.

http://download.openoffice.org/680/

#36

either way, we made an exception for firefox 3, but we won't for OpenOffice 3? Intrepid isn't even an LTS!

#37

to get the 64bit deb, i go to that stupid bouncer page.

anyone have a direct link to the debs for 64bit ubuntu?

#38

DPic said: either way, we made an exception for firefox 3, but we won't for OpenOffice 3? Intrepid isn't even an LTS!

I'm confused. They included firefox 3 because it would be impossible to maintain firefox 2 for 3 years. Maintining openoffice 2.4.x for 18 months wont be as difficult.

And yes I definitely want openoffice 3 in intrepid, but I don't fully expect it since they havn't included any of the 3.0 series yet. But according to a bug at launchpad they are testing to see if it is possible.

#39

see new post in forums under 64 bits about oo3 works today 8/23/08

#40

Once I have OpenOffice 3.0 (OOo3) installed in Ubuntu 8.04.1 via 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb', how do I run it? No matter what I try, I keep getting 2.4, the version included with Ubuntu.

#41

altonbr said: Once I have OpenOffice 3.0 (OOo3) installed in Ubuntu 8.04.1 via 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb', how do I run it? No matter what I try, I keep getting 2.4, the version included with Ubuntu.

Check in /opt

#42

opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice

#43

Hm,I recently tried latest rc and powerpoint slideshows does not work for me, I can open but when I try to slideshow it all I get is black

#44

If you have compiz enabled try disabling it.

#45

xlinuks said: If you have compiz enabled try disabling it.

That was my first thought but it didn't help

#46

zoomy942 said: to get the 64bit deb, i go to that stupid bouncer page.

anyone have a direct link to the debs for 64bit ubuntu?

Go to the download page: http://download.openoffice.org/680/ and about a quarter down the page it says

"If the following Bouncer links do not work then please select one of the mirrors listed at the distribution page and download the binary from the ../contrib/rc/3.0.0rc3/ directory or select the no javascript page."

Just follow the link to the distribution page.

Sorry for the choppy reply-- it's early at work on so few hours of sleep.

Enjoy!

#47

I really hope Open Office 3 makes it into Intrepid. With all of this hype building up about Ubuntu in the news lately they'll need to make sure that they are serving the latest versions of everything...labeled stable of course. ;)

I mean, VLC 0.9.2 made it in and that's just great news for Ubuntu users! Hopefully GIMP 2.6 will make the cut as well. I'm about to install v3 and see how it goes.

#48

So is it OK to install the RC3 .deb directly from OOo?

#49

stewacide said: So is it OK to install the RC3 .deb directly from OOo?

Sure, I'm installing it from there. I would say it is a trusted source and they probably won't slip any bad code into it. ;)

#50

I have OOo 3 installed, but don't have time to check it out. Sigh.....

#51

Looks like there will be an RC4, per http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=releases&msgNo=12683. New expected final release date is Oct. 14th.

#52

I hope they fix the issue that I can't open files (64-bit)..

Always crashes when I choose "open with" or try to open from the new window thingy. Works from the menu though..

#53

i just hope its included in the final Intrepid release

#54

zoomy942 said: i just hope its included in the final Intrepid release

I guarentee it won't. The release date for Intrepid is too close to the release date for OpenOffice.org 3 (only just over 2 weeks between the current scheduled OpenOffice.org 3 release and the Intrepid Ibex release, which is not nearly enough time for testing).

#55

smartboyathome said: I guarentee it won't. The release date for Intrepid is too close to the release date for OpenOffice.org 3 (only just over 2 weeks between the current scheduled OpenOffice.org 3 release and the Intrepid Ibex release, which is not nearly enough time for testing).

thats a shame.

It would be ince to have it integrate how 2.4 does. I have tried 3.0 and I like it but i dont know how to remove 2.4

#56

zoomy942 said: thats a shame.

It would be ince to have it integrate how 2.4 does. I have tried 3.0 and I like it but i dont know how to remove 2.4

Open Synaptic and remove everything with OpenOffice.org in its name (not OpenOffice.org3) except openoffice.org-ure (which is a dependancy of OO.o 3).

#57

The RC2 in the PPA works perfectly for me in 64 bit (on 3 boxes). It is well-integrated into ubuntu (e.g. replaces 2.4).


#calcs_open_office_ppa
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
#58

@smartboyathome At one point removal of the open office meta package resulted in removal of ubuntu-desktop. Has this been changed?

#59

nanog said: The RC2 in the PPA works perfectly for me in 64 bit (on 3 boxes). It is well-integrated into ubuntu (e.g. replaces 2.4).


#calcs_open_office_ppa
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main

I'll try that on the beta in x minutes/hours.

Does anypone know when dictionaries (except for english) will be available for ooo3?

#60

nanog said: The RC2 in the PPA works perfectly for me in 64 bit (on 3 boxes). It is well-integrated into ubuntu (e.g. replaces 2.4).


#calcs_open_office_ppa
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main

whats the difference between using this and just download the deb?

#61

nanog said: @smartboyathome

At one point removal of the open office meta package resulted in removal of ubuntu-desktop. Has this been changed?

I guess so, as it didn't remove Ubuntu desktop for me.

#62

the oinly thing i dont like is the integration with Gnome is nice with 2.4. 3.0 doesnt inegrate like it.

#63

Will RC2 be updated to RC3 in calc's PPA?

:)

#64

danf_1979 said: Will RC2 be updated to RC3 in calc's PPA?

:)

RC4 is probably being released tomorrow, so might as well wait :P